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Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Hey everyone,
Perhaps an odd question, but I would like to generate DITA files with a (book)map and a specific profiling set. The reason for this is to provide a 3rd party with DITA files without them having to look through unused profiled content. (They don't work with Oxygen).
I've found the temporary files created by a transformation scenario contain the desired DITA output, but with additional unwanted processing instructions and attributes.
Any ideas on how to achieve this?
Perhaps an odd question, but I would like to generate DITA files with a (book)map and a specific profiling set. The reason for this is to provide a 3rd party with DITA files without them having to look through unused profiled content. (They don't work with Oxygen).
I've found the temporary files created by a transformation scenario contain the desired DITA output, but with additional unwanted processing instructions and attributes.
Any ideas on how to achieve this?
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi,
We have an action which can be used to export a DITA Map project to a ZIP file. But it does not take into account profiling condition filters. We have an issue opened for this and we'll try to increase its priority.
Oxygen has a feature which you could potentially use called XML Refactoring. If you open a DITA Map in the DITA Maps Manager view, right click the root element you can choose "Refactoring->XML Refactoring". Then you can choose a predefined operation called Delete Element and compose an XPath expression of what elements to delete based on certain profiling attributes set on them.
You should also try registering and asking around on the DITA Users List for this, I remember there was a DITA Open Toolkit plugin which could be used to obtain DITA from DITA but I cannot find a reference to it right now. But from what I remember that plugin will also generate default attributes.
Regards,
Radu
We have an action which can be used to export a DITA Map project to a ZIP file. But it does not take into account profiling condition filters. We have an issue opened for this and we'll try to increase its priority.
Oxygen has a feature which you could potentially use called XML Refactoring. If you open a DITA Map in the DITA Maps Manager view, right click the root element you can choose "Refactoring->XML Refactoring". Then you can choose a predefined operation called Delete Element and compose an XPath expression of what elements to delete based on certain profiling attributes set on them.
You should also try registering and asking around on the DITA Users List for this, I remember there was a DITA Open Toolkit plugin which could be used to obtain DITA from DITA but I cannot find a reference to it right now. But from what I remember that plugin will also generate default attributes.
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Thanks Radu, for your input.
I'll try and look around, see if I can find such a plugin.
I'll try and look around, see if I can find such a plugin.
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi,
Sure, I found where that DITA OT plugin I was telling you about was:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize
but it's not something bug free from what we tested.
Regards,
Radu
Sure, I found where that DITA OT plugin I was telling you about was:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize
but it's not something bug free from what we tested.
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Awesome, thanksRadu wrote:Hi,
Sure, I found where that DITA OT plugin I was telling you about was:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize
but it's not something bug free from what we tested.
Regards,
Radu

I'm trying to install the plugin into Oxygen Author 17.1, following the steps described here.
The Transformation type is 'recognized' after running the OT-Integrator. Unfortunately when I run the Transformation Scenario it gives me the DOTA001F error ("dita" is not a recognized transformation type.)
What did I miss?
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi,
I just tested integrating the plugin and publishing with it and it worked for me.
You should check that you are running the integrator on the same DITA OT where you placed the plugin (the integrator outputs some information in a console view). Also you should check that the DITA OT you use to publish is the same DITA OT where you installed the plugin.
Usually by default, if in Oxygen 17.1 you look in the Preferences->"DITA" page, it points to a default DITA OT distribution. If you add the plugin in that DITA OT, the available integrator transformation scenario will run in the same DITA OT. And the transformation scenario will also run with the same DITA OT, you can look at the "dita.dir" parameter when editing the transformation scenario to see what that is.
Regards,
Radu
I just tested integrating the plugin and publishing with it and it worked for me.
You should check that you are running the integrator on the same DITA OT where you placed the plugin (the integrator outputs some information in a console view). Also you should check that the DITA OT you use to publish is the same DITA OT where you installed the plugin.
Usually by default, if in Oxygen 17.1 you look in the Preferences->"DITA" page, it points to a default DITA OT distribution. If you add the plugin in that DITA OT, the available integrator transformation scenario will run in the same DITA OT. And the transformation scenario will also run with the same DITA OT, you can look at the "dita.dir" parameter when editing the transformation scenario to see what that is.
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Hey Radu,Radu wrote:You should check that you are running the integrator on the same DITA OT where you placed the plugin (the integrator outputs some information in a console view). Also you should check that the DITA OT you use to publish is the same DITA OT where you installed the plugin.
I've ran several different custom plugins for customers, all located at:
C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\plugins
I've added the unzipped download from the link you posted, and included it in the folder mentioned above, resulting in:
C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\plugins\org.dita.normalize-master
${configured.ditaot.dir} as dita.dir parameter seems to be correct as other plugins also work fine (points to: ${frameworksDir}/dita/DITA-OT).
Output DITA OT Integrator:
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Executing:
"c:\program files\oxygen xml author 17\jre/bin/java" -Xmx256m -classpath "C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\tools\ant/lib/ant-launcher.jar" "-Dant.home=C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\tools\ant" org.apache.tools.ant.launch.Launcher -lib "C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\lib\commons-io.jar" -lib "C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT2.x\lib\commons-io-2.4.jar" -f "C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks/dita/DITA-OT/integrator.xml" "-Dstrict=true" "-Dwebhelp.trial.license=no"
Buildfile: C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\integrator.xml
strict:
integrate:
BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 1 second
The process finished with exit code: 0
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Executing:
"...-Ddita.dir=C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks/dita/DITA-OT" "-DbaseJVMArgLine=-Xmx384m"
Buildfile: C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\build.xml
init:
clean-output:
BUILD FAILED
C:\Program Files\Oxygen XML Author 17\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\build.xml:36: [DOTA001F][FATAL] "dita" is not a recognized transformation type. Supported transformation types are AMPLEXOR, Enerpac, Simcoion, Stertil, VDL, d4pjournals, docbook, eclipsecontent, eclipsehelp, epub, graphviz, html2, htmlhelp, indesign, javahelp, kindle, legacypdf, myInsight, odt, pdf, pdf-css, pdf2, reveal, rss, subjectscheme2navmap, tocjs, troff, webhelp, webhelp-feedback, webhelp-feedback-mobile, webhelp-mobile, word2dita, wordrtf, xhtml.
Total time: 0 seconds
The process finished with exit code: 1
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi,
My original tests were with DITA OT 2.x.
Now I tested the plugin with DITA OT 1.8 and indeed it does not work with it, I added an issue for it + a fix suggestion that you can use on your side to get things going:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize/issues/4
Regards,
Radu
My original tests were with DITA OT 2.x.
Now I tested the plugin with DITA OT 1.8 and indeed it does not work with it, I added an issue for it + a fix suggestion that you can use on your side to get things going:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize/issues/4
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Ah that explains it.Radu wrote:Hi,
My original tests were with DITA OT 2.x.
Now I tested the plugin with DITA OT 1.8 and indeed it does not work with it, I added an issue for it + a fix suggestion that you can use on your side to get things going:
https://github.com/dita-ot/org.dita.normalize/issues/4
Regards,
Radu
I've applied your suggested fix to the plugin and it now runs succesfully.
When viewing the output however, it only shows the dita.list and dita.xml.properties files and resources folder which is used to hold images. No DITA topics.
The temp folder does hold the DITA topics. Does it work for you? Any thoughts?
Thanks,
-Jochem
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi Jochem,
You are right, although it can be made to work with DITA OT 1.8 using that fix, it does not properly work, probably it depends on a certain plugin extension which was not available in 1.8. I tested with DITA OT 2.x and it generates topics in the output folder.
Regards,
Radu
You are right, although it can be made to work with DITA OT 1.8 using that fix, it does not properly work, probably it depends on a certain plugin extension which was not available in 1.8. I tested with DITA OT 2.x and it generates topics in the output folder.
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Thanks, managed to do the same.Radu wrote:Hi Jochem,
You are right, although it can be made to work with DITA OT 1.8 using that fix, it does not properly work, probably it depends on a certain plugin extension which was not available in 1.8. I tested with DITA OT 2.x and it generates topics in the output folder.
Regards,
Radu
Going slightly off-topic here, but we're currently using DITA OT 1.8 with attribute specializations. This doesn't play nice with DITA OT 2.0, because it doesn't appear to use the 1.8 DTD.
Two questions:
1. How would I achieve dtd specialization in DITA OT 2.0? The dtd folder only holds 'properties.dtd'.
2. Do you know of any other compatibility issues when upgrading from DITA OT 1.8 to 2.0?
Thanks again!
Jochem
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Hi Jochem,
So:
You can find such a sample plugin here:
OXYGEN_INSTALL_DIR\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\plugins\mathml
Once you have the specialization bundled as a plugin, you can install it in DITA OT 2.0 by copying it to its plugins folder and running the integrator.
The full set of DITA OT 2.0 changes should be here:
http://www.dita-ot.org/2.0/readme/changes/rel2.0.html
So you would need to find some time to port your changes, see if they still work, maybe they do. As a best practice, you should keep an internal record of all the customization changes you make.
Regards,
Radu
So:
Usually a proper DITA specialization is wrapped as a DITA Open Toolkit plugin which contributes both the DTDs and the extra catalog entries to the DITA OT.1. How would I achieve dtd specialization in DITA OT 2.0? The dtd folder only holds 'properties.dtd'
You can find such a sample plugin here:
OXYGEN_INSTALL_DIR\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\plugins\mathml
Once you have the specialization bundled as a plugin, you can install it in DITA OT 2.0 by copying it to its plugins folder and running the integrator.
Yes, there should be compatibility problems, especially if you made PDF customizations, some deprecated templates have been removed for example.2. Do you know of any other compatibility issues when upgrading from DITA OT 1.8 to 2.0?
The full set of DITA OT 2.0 changes should be here:
http://www.dita-ot.org/2.0/readme/changes/rel2.0.html
So you would need to find some time to port your changes, see if they still work, maybe they do. As a best practice, you should keep an internal record of all the customization changes you make.
Regards,
Radu
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Re: Generate DITA XML from ... DITA XML
Post by jochemdevos »
Hey Radu,Radu wrote:Hi Jochem,
So:
Usually a proper DITA specialization is wrapped as a DITA Open Toolkit plugin which contributes both the DTDs and the extra catalog entries to the DITA OT.1. How would I achieve dtd specialization in DITA OT 2.0? The dtd folder only holds 'properties.dtd'
You can find such a sample plugin here:
OXYGEN_INSTALL_DIR\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT\plugins\mathml
Once you have the specialization bundled as a plugin, you can install it in DITA OT 2.0 by copying it to its plugins folder and running the integrator.
Yes, there should be compatibility problems, especially if you made PDF customizations, some deprecated templates have been removed for example.2. Do you know of any other compatibility issues when upgrading from DITA OT 1.8 to 2.0?
The full set of DITA OT 2.0 changes should be here:
http://www.dita-ot.org/2.0/readme/changes/rel2.0.html
So you would need to find some time to port your changes, see if they still work, maybe they do. As a best practice, you should keep an internal record of all the customization changes you make.
Regards,
Radu
Our changes are fairly limited, I believe it's called attribute domain extensions, to specialize the props profiling attribute to use as profiling attributes in topics.
Hopefully I will get around to test DITA OT 2.0 compatibility with our developed PDF stylesheet soon and profiling tags, and I'll be sure to use your pointers.
Thanks for the assistence!
-Jochem
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