[oXygen-user] Oxygen Author Mode as a Word-Processor; Was RE: Easy insertion of en/em-dash

Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)
Fri Oct 3 06:01:10 CDT 2014


Hi all,

If I understand correctly what Robert wants is quite interesting. It is 
a way of building a CSS (which could be used either for editing or in 
the case of XHTML both for editing and publishing) by assigning styles, 
font sizes, etc directly in an XML instance.
I would call something like this a user-friendly CSS skin builder. We'll 
note this as a possible improvement for a future version.

In version 17 of Oxygen which we plan for next year we will have a CSS 
inspector view (like web browsers do) which will make easier the 
debugging of CSS styles when XML is edited in the Author visual editing 
mode. The CSS inspector will show for each XML element what CSS 
selectors have been used, what selectors have been overwritten from the 
parent selectors and will allow developers to open the CSS directly 
where the selector was defined. Also for version 17 we plan to work on 
support for Less which is a more compact way of defining and reusing CSS 
styles for editing XML in the Author visual editing mode.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com

On 10/3/2014 12:50 AM, Robert Leif wrote:
> Hi Markus et al.
>
> I wrote "Thus, a pull-down tree should be organized by them and at each
> level permit the user to change the style except when _the style is
> read-only_. (Underline added). I anticipated what you want with
> read-only. oXygen author is very useful for webpage WISIWIG coding.
> Unfortunately, the authors of HTML5 made it difficult to embed XML
> data-types in it.
>
> CSS formatting capabilities would potentially be a very useful tool for
> structured document development. I believe that we are in agreement that
> content and style information should be kept separate, which is what I
> proposed. The CSS document must be separate from the XML content. In
> fact, it would be quite useful when one writes a paper to be able to
> directly copy code written in XML into another XML document and format
> that code with a premade CSS style sheet. Presently in FrameMaker, I
> have to individually tag all of the elements, attributes, and their
> values, which is tedious.
>
> I believe that the automatic generation capabilities of oXygen need to
> be restrained, but not eliminated.
>
> Bob Leif
>
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> RE: Easy insertion of en/em-dash
>
> Hi Bob,
>
>  > I agree that author mode should have word-processor like features. It
> does not have the equivalent of a styles menu for body, paragraphs and
> fonts.
>
> Hopefully such features will never!!! be implemented in oXygen Author. I
> like features which makes author's work as easy as possible. And if
> there would be a "do what I mean button", I would be very happy about
> it. But all this stuff should be content and not layout oriented.
>
> Of course, designing your XML structure with CSS-, FO designers etc.
> would be really cool. But this must not be part of the Xml Author
> (mode). I see this feature exclusive in Xml Editor, similar to XSLT and
> CSS editing. It is an administrative task and not author's job.
>
> I don't want getting oXygen a word processor. I want to have it what it
> is, a real cool, user-friendly XML editor, which is getting better and
> better. If I want a word processor I would use Word. And by the way: I
> really like FrameMaker, but allowing users to change their layout in any
> case they like, is not XML.
>
> Markus Wiedenmaier
>
> BTW: I agree, if there will be an auto completion, it should be turned
> off by default.
>
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