[oXygen-user] Schematron for Multi-Lingual Schemas?

[Oxygen XML Editor Support (Octavian Nadolu)]

Hello Tony,

If you want to have the annotations in different languages for the the 
RELAX NG compact syntax you cannot use the shorthand syntax "##":

## Cites a footnote number

You will need to use the "less compact syntax":

[a:documentation  [ xml:lang = "en" 'Cites a footnote number'] ]

http://www.relaxng.org/compact-tutorial-20030326.html#id2816874

Best Regards,
Octavian


On 21.08.2015 13:26, Tony Graham wrote:
> On 21/08/2015 08:12, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Octavian Nadolu) wrote:
>  > Unfortunately we do not support multiple languages for the Schematron
>  >  messages. We have an issue on our issue tracker regarding this
>  > problem
>
> Schematron itself doesn't make this easy.  I kept expecting there'd be
> something that would 'just work', but even Annex G reads like an
> afterthought.
>
>  > and I will increase it's priority. The Schematron messages are
>  > generated
>
> Thanks.
>
>  > at validation and we need to collect only the diagnostics with the
>  > xml:lang equal with the one form the application. Now all the
>  > messages
>
> That should work okay.  Part of why Annex G reads like an afterthought
> is that it manages to repeat the 'A dog should have a bone.' text in an
> 'en' diagnostic.  That shouldn't be necessary, IMO.
>
>  > are collected, the xml:lang attribute is ignored.
>  >
>  > If you make multiple single language Schematron files, maybe you can
>  >  create for each one a validation scenario and depending on the
>  > language use the specific validation scenario. But you will need to
>  > associate the
>
> That is my current plan.  I'm starting with the Schematron since I
> autogenerate most of it, which means I can localise most of it just by
> adding a function to the XSLT.
>
>  > scenario manually. Or you can create different projects and save the
>  >  validation scenario and the association in the project, and when you
>  >  will change the project you will have the specific validation.
>
> I was trying to not have to do that, but if I did that, it would mean
> that I could localise everything, including the project description.
>
>  > Other workaround is to use the "phase" mechanism. You can create a
>  > Schematron with multiple phases, a phase for each language. At
>  > validation oXygen will present a dialog with the phases and you can
>  > select the one you want depending on the language.
>
> I hadn't thought of that, but that could be an interesting alternative.
> However, I'd have to see whether that would play nicely with my current
> use of separate separate phases for FOs, properties, and Antenna House
> extensions.
>
>  > I added an issue also for the annotations, to support multiple
>  > languages. Here is the same problem we collect all the annotations
>  > without looking at the lang attribute.
>
> Thanks.  I also autogenerate a lot of the Relax NG as compact syntax.  I
> haven't found a way to annotate '##' annotations with xml:lang, but
> xml:lang can be added using the less-compact compact syntax, e.g.:
>
> axf_footnote-number-citation =
>     [ a:documentation  [ xml:lang = "en"
>           'Cites a footnote number'
>     ] ]
>    element axf:footnote-number-citation {
>      attribute ref-id { text },
>      empty
> }
>
> However, I'm more likely to just add translations to the XML syntax
> version after it's been created by 'jing'. But that part of it isn't
> your problem to solve.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Tony Graham.