From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan  2 03:10:31 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 01:10:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] colwidth not processed for fo
Message-ID: <20040102091031.12008.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I've seen several postings in the docbook-app archives
on the colwidth problem, I cannot seem to make it
work.

Platform:
SuSE 9.0
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
(build 1.4.2-b28)

Tool Chain:
Saxon 6.5.3
Apache FOP 0.20.5
XSL 1.62.4

*Extension for Saxon in /lib = saxon651.jar

Cust layer imports fo/docbook.xsl:
<xsl:import href="./xsl/fo/docbook.xsl"/>

Cust layer enables extensions:
<xsl:param name="use.extensions" select="1"/>
<xsl:param name="tablecolumns.extension" select="1"/>
<xsl:param name="saxon.tablecolumns" select="1"/>

Table:
<table id="1">
?<title>A Title</title>
?<tgroup cols="2">
?<colspec colnum="1" colwidth="1.00*"/>
?<colspec colnum="2" colwidth="3.00*"/>
?<thead>
????????...

When transforming I get:
[ERROR] Error in column-width property value '25%':
org.apache.fop.fo.expr.PropertyException: No
conversion defined
[ERROR] Error in column-width property value '75%':
org.apache.fop.fo.expr.PropertyException: No
conversion defined

Table transforms to 50% for colnum 1 & 2.

What could the problem be?

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan  2 14:03:30 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:03:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] None
Message-ID: <20040102200330.57087.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi when I transform using Saxon or Xalan and Apache
FOP 0.20.5 I get the following message, repeated a
number of tiimes. What does it mean, how can I avaoid
it?

[INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as
SAX2 Parser
[INFO] FOP 0.20.5
[INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as
SAX2 Parser
[INFO] building formatting object tree
[INFO] setting up fonts
[ERROR] Unknown enumerated value for property
'relative-align': baseline
[ERROR] Error in relative-align property value
'baseline': org.apache.fop.fo.expr.PropertyException:
No conversion defined

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan  3 17:32:49 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:32:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] Save As DTD
Message-ID: <20040103233249.14662.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey,

I just noticed that the feature to save a learn
structure to DTD is not there. How do i do it now?

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan  4 04:01:50 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 04:01:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] Save As DTD
In-Reply-To: <20040103233249.14662.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0401040356490.11305-100000@editor.oxygenxml.com>

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Sean Wheller wrote:

Hello Sean,

We were thinking that this feature is overlapping the Trang Converter.
Trang is able to generate a more strict DTD(or other schemas).

Please try it (see the tool-bar button for "convert") and let us know what 
you think about it.


Many regards,

Dan 


> Hey,
> 
> I just noticed that the feature to save a learn
> structure to DTD is not there. How do i do it now?
> 
> Sean Wheller
> 
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan  5 06:33:18 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 14:33:18 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] None (colwidth not processed for fo)
In-Reply-To: <20040102200330.57087.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040102200330.57087.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3FF9598E.5090300@oxygenxml.com>

Hello Sean,

Please read this post:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200301/msg00359.html

It seems to be also linked to the problem you have with the column width.

Dan Caprioara

Sean Wheller wrote:
> Hi when I transform using Saxon or Xalan and Apache
> FOP 0.20.5 I get the following message, repeated a
> number of tiimes. What does it mean, how can I avaoid
> it?
> 
> [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as
> SAX2 Parser
> [INFO] FOP 0.20.5
> [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser as
> SAX2 Parser
> [INFO] building formatting object tree
> [INFO] setting up fonts
> [ERROR] Unknown enumerated value for property
> 'relative-align': baseline
> [ERROR] Error in relative-align property value
> 'baseline': org.apache.fop.fo.expr.PropertyException:
> No conversion defined
> 
> Sean Wheller
> 
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan  5 15:04:43 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Chinedu Uchechukwu)
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 22:04:43 +0100
Subject: [oXygen-user] Early access to <oXygen/> 3.0
Message-ID: <3FF9D16B.7070306@netscape.net>

Hello George,
The link below did not work for me (windows professional xp). What do I do?

I like using the "learn structure" to introduce the forming of dtd's to students, so I shall keep on
using the 2. series of oxygen to do that.

Least I forget: A Happy new year to you all!

Chinedu..
----------------------------------------------

Hi,

In case you want to give oXygen 3.0 a try please find below information about where to get it from and how to set up the license.

All platforms
http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenAll.tar.gz

Mac OS X
http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenMacOSX.tar.gz

Please paste the following lines when it asks for license:



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan  6 00:10:07 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 22:10:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] None (colwidth not processed for fo)
In-Reply-To: <3FF9598E.5090300@oxygenxml.com>
Message-ID: <20040106061007.56290.qmail@web41604.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Dan,

Thanks I fixed the problem. FOP does support colwidth
adjustments, it it cannot do so with the help of the
extensions for saxon and xalan.

When I disable them and use the following syntax I can
control colwidth to be 25% and 75% respectively.

<table id="a">
   <title>Title</title>
   <tgroup cols="2">
    <colspec colname="c1" colnum="1" colwidth="1*"/>
    <colspec colname="c2" colnum="2" colwidth="3*"/>

Strange why FOP have not made this implimentation yet.
I plan on testing XEP soon as I understand it does a
much better job.

Sean Wheller

--- Dan Caprioara <dan at > wrote:
> Hello Sean,
> 
> Please read this post:
> 
>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200301/msg00359.html
> 
> It seems to be also linked to the problem you have
> with the column width.
> 
> Dan Caprioara
> 
> Sean Wheller wrote:
> > Hi when I transform using Saxon or Xalan and
> Apache
> > FOP 0.20.5 I get the following message, repeated a
> > number of tiimes. What does it mean, how can I
> avaoid
> > it?
> > 
> > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser
> as
> > SAX2 Parser
> > [INFO] FOP 0.20.5
> > [INFO] Using org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser
> as
> > SAX2 Parser
> > [INFO] building formatting object tree
> > [INFO] setting up fonts
> > [ERROR] Unknown enumerated value for property
> > 'relative-align': baseline
> > [ERROR] Error in relative-align property value
> > 'baseline':
> org.apache.fop.fo.expr.PropertyException:
> > No conversion defined
> > 
> > Sean Wheller
> > 
> > __________________________________
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> > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
> > http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
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> > oXygen-user at 
> >
>
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> 
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan  6 01:34:17 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:34:17 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Early access to <oXygen/> 3.0
References: <3FF9D16B.7070306@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <012001c3d427$8671e4d0$1300000a@spelling>

Hi Chinedu,

What do you mean the link did not work for you ? Both links should work
fine.

Happy New Year!
George
-------------------------------------------------------------
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<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chinedu Uchechukwu" <neduchi at >
To: <oxygen-user at >
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:04 PM
Subject: [oXygen-user] Early access to <oXygen/> 3.0


> Hello George,
> The link below did not work for me (windows professional xp). What do I
do?
>
> I like using the "learn structure" to introduce the forming of dtd's to
students, so I shall keep on
> using the 2. series of oxygen to do that.
>
> Least I forget: A Happy new year to you all!
>
> Chinedu..
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Hi,
>
> In case you want to give oXygen 3.0 a try please find below information
about where to get it from and how to set up the license.
>
> All platforms
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenAll.tar.gz
>
> Mac OS X
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenMacOSX.tar.gz
>
> Please paste the following lines when it asks for license:
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan  6 08:16:27 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 06:16:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] Early access to <oXygen/> 3.0
In-Reply-To: <3FFAC1A6.1080606@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <20040106141627.92966.qmail@web41611.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Chinedu,

This is not George, its Sean. I have included your
message back to the user group with this response.

The problem is that the edition is for all platforms.
It is a unix tarball (tar.gz). On windows should be
able to extract it using Winzip. There is no install,
you just copy the folder to where you want to run the
program and the execute the oxygen.bat file. If you
have a license, then paste it when prompted.

The program should run fine assuming that you have
java already installed.

Hope this helps,

Sean Wheller

--- Chinedu Uchechukwu <neduchi at > wrote:


    Hallo George,
I do not know what could be the problem, but I could
not install thedownloaded file: 

http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenAll.tar.gz
I thought I would just click it to install (as in
previous windowsversions of oxygen), but the system 
would report that the program is not recognized, and
ask whether I wantit to check on the internet 
bla bla bla!

What should I do to install it in windows xp, just
like the otherversions?

Chinedu...

seanwhe at  wrote:
  
Chinedu,I can confirm that the link does work. On
Linux I canretrieve the file using wget and under the
Konquerorweb browser.Sean Wheller--- George Cristian
Bina <george at > wrote:  
      
Hi Chinedu,What do you mean the link did not work for
you ?Both links should workfine.Happy New Year!George 
  
    
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
      
George Cristian Bina
mailto:george at <oXygen/> XML Editor -
http://www.oxygenxml.com/----- Original Message
-----From: "Chinedu Uchechukwu"
<neduchi at >To:
<oxygen-user at >Sent: Monday, January 05,
2004 11:04 PMSubject: [oXygen-user] Early access to
<oXygen/> 3.0    
          
Hello George,The link below did not work for me
(windows      
        
professional xp). What do Ido?    
          
I like using the "learn structure" to introduce      
        
the forming of dtd's tostudents, so I shall keep on   

          
using the 2. series of oxygen to do that.Least I
forget: A Happy new year to you
all!Chinedu..----------------------------------------------Hi,In
case you want to give oXygen 3.0 a try please      
        
find below informationabout where to get it from and
how to set up thelicense.    
          
All platforms      
        
http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenAll.tar.gz 

            
Mac OS X      
        
http://www.oxygenxml.com/george/test/oxygenMacOSX.tar.gz
 
            
Please paste the following lines when it asks for     

        
license:    
          
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mailing listoXygen-user at       
        
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan  6 09:24:09 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:24:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] 
 revisited: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
Message-ID: <20040106152409.91414.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, once more, even though I have plenty of memory and
FOP limit is set to 800 I am getting the message 
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
Process ended with exit code: 1

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan  6 23:20:38 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:20:38 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user]  revisited: Exception in thread "main"
	java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
In-Reply-To: <20040106152409.91414.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040106152409.91414.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3FFB9726.8020302@oxygenxml.com>

Hello Sean,

Well, FOP has problems with big input files. I think one solution is to 
split somehow the input in two pieces and convert them individually. 
Other solution is to use another FO processor. From my knowledge XEP 
failed on FO files generated from Docbook, but I did not checked the 
latest release.

Here is a link with a list of FO processors:

http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/FOprocessors.html

Many regards,

Dan

Sean Wheller wrote:
> Hi, once more, even though I have plenty of memory and
> FOP limit is set to 800 I am getting the message 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
> Process ended with exit code: 1
> 
> Sean Wheller
> 
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan  7 00:47:49 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:47:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user]  revisited: Exception in thread "main"
	java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
In-Reply-To: <3FFB9726.8020302@oxygenxml.com>
Message-ID: <20040107064749.42210.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com>


--- Dan Caprioara <dan at > wrote:
> Hello Sean,
> 
> Well, FOP has problems with big input files. I think
> one solution is to 
> split somehow the input in two pieces and convert
> them individually. 

Yes, but that is difficult with the files are in
sequence and form part of a book with running
headers/footers and sequenced page numbers. Also
references between sections need to be hard coded.

> Other solution is to use another FO processor. From
> my knowledge XEP 
> failed on FO files generated from Docbook, but I did
> not checked the 
> latest release.

I have the trial edition installed. As you say it
fails.

> 
> Here is a link with a list of FO processors:
> 
> http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/FOprocessors.html
> 

Yes I know this list and am trying them.

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan  7 07:43:06 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 05:43:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
Message-ID: <20040107134306.15065.qmail@web41609.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know if JAI may help to eleviate the
problem of the "Exception in thread "main"
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError". Of course with FOP
0.20.5.

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan 12 08:37:10 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:37:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] How to avoid .
Message-ID: <20040112143710.45138.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

How can I avoid having the value of a glossary element
wrap.

The problem is that when the value wraps the glossary
cannot find the entry in the database. This is because
of the whitespace that is created by line wrap, it
think.

So I will get messages such as this:
There's no entry for Common Object Request Broker
                Architecture in resources/glossary.xml
There's no entry for Remote Method
                Invocation in resources/glossary.xml
There's no entry for Transmission
                    Control Protocol over Internet
Protocol in resources/glossary.xml
There's no entry for Microsoft
                Windows Distributed interNet
Architecture in resources/glossary.xml
There's no entry for Extensible Markup
                        Language in
resources/glossary.xml


Yet when I check resources/glossary.xml a glossentry
does exist.

Sean Wheller

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 11 12:42:50 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sylvain Perchaud)
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:42:50 +0100
Subject: [oXygen-user] oXygen 3.0 tag insight problem
Message-ID: <20040111184250.29569@smtp.online.net>

Hello,


I'm currently testing oXygen 3.0 and I'm still facing a problem with Tag
Insight.

My system:

    Mac OS 10.3.2
    Java runtime 1.4.1


When I create a new document, the DocBook DTD being the default DTD to
use in the Tag Insight Preferences, Tag Insight behaves strangely with
the following code:


--- Start ---
<chapter>
    <chapterinfo>
        <authorgroup>
        <author>
        <firstname>
        Sylvain
        </firstname>
        <surname>Perchaud</surname>
        <affiliation><orgname>&es;</orgname></affiliation>
        </author>

        </authorgroup>
    </chapterinfo>    
    </chapter>
--- End ---

(&es; is here an entity defined in my main project file)

It seems that Tag Insight doesn't understand that the <orgname> element
is closed, since when I want to add another element after </author> it
only allows me the </orgname> tag or elements available inside <orgname>.



-- 
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http://www.europe-shareware.org


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 13 04:07:54 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sylvain Perchaud)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:07:54 +0100
Subject: Re(2): [oXygen-user] oXygen 3.0 tag insight problem
In-Reply-To: <20040113064504.15835.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040113064504.15835.qmail@web41605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040113100755.6226@smtp.online.net>

Le lundi 12 janvier 2004, ? 22:45, Sean Wheller a ?crit:

>Hi Sylvian,
>
>This seems to work fine on Linux with version 3.0.
>
>--- start
><chapter>
>    <chapterinfo>
>        <authorgroup>
>            <author>
>                <firstname> Sylvain </firstname>
>                <surname>Perchaud</surname>
>                <affiliation>
>                    <shortaffil> ... </shortaffil>
>                    <jobtitle>...</jobtitle>
>                    <orgname>&es;</orgname>
>                    <address> ... </address>
>                </affiliation>
>            </author>
>        </authorgroup>
>    </chapterinfo>
>    <title>The Chapter Title</title>
>    <sect1>
>        <title>The first section title</title>
>        <para>Text</para>
>    </sect1>
></chapter>
>
>--- end
>
>Things you can check:
>1. The PUBLIC and SYSTEM identifiers are correct.

Those informations are in my main project file and are correct.


>2. The document is valid.

Yes it is.


>3. Your xml catalog variable is defined correctly.

I've never modified the default setting (and don't have modified the
files in the docbook distribution shipped with oXygen 3.0).



It seems that the problem comes from placing an entity in the <orgname>
element.
When I don't place &es; or any other entity in the orgname element (for
example <orgname>Europe Shareware</orgnamme>), everything goes well.

This problem also occurs inside the other elements I tested.



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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Thu Jan 15 00:38:46 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:38:46 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Congratulations on the release of <oXygen/> 3.0
Message-ID: <200401150838.46661.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi,

Just a note to say congratulations on the release of version 3.0.

It works just fine and is certainly the best release to date.

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 10:18:06 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:18:06 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] html-customization layer and chunk.xsl
Message-ID: <200401181818.06023.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hello,

I want to chunk my document to HTML using html/chunk.xsl from the Docbook 
Stylesheets bundled with Oxygen 3.0.

I have created a customization layer (html-cust.xsl) that does an xsl:import 
of chunk.xsl and xsl:include of customizations that are common to HTML and FO 
(common-cust.xsl). The part we're interested in looks like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" 
version="1.0">
    <!-- This file is a customization layer for HTML only -->
    <!-- ======================= -->
    <!-- Imports -->
    <xsl:import href="/home/sean/apps/oxygen/docbook/xsl/html/chunk.xsl"/>
    <xsl:include href="common-cust.xsl"/>

When I validate this xsl file I get the following error:

F javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: ElemTemplateElement error: 
chunk-element-content

Yet when I replace chunk.xsl with html/docbook.xsl the xsl is valid.

Any ideas anyone?

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 10:29:08 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:29:08 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
Message-ID: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>

How can I setup a transformation so that it will chunk. When I specify 
chunk.xsl directly I get errors:

E Failed to compile stylesheet. 8 errors detected.
E Variable filename-prefix has not been declared
E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
E No template exists named chunk-element-content
E No template exists named chunk-element-content

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 10:57:20 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Robert Koberg)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 08:57:20 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
In-Reply-To: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>
References: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <400ABAF0.4070709@koberg.com>

Hi,

Those errors look pretty descriptive. Are you saying that the variables 
have been declared and the templates exist?

I don't know what 'chunk' means, but perhaps you would be better served 
on a docbook or XSL list. From my memory the docbook xsl is relatively 
complex and has a file that declares a bunch of global variable/params 
-- perhaps you have not included it or copied over the relevant 
variable/params.

best,
-Rob


Sean Wheller wrote:
> How can I setup a transformation so that it will chunk. When I specify 
> chunk.xsl directly I get errors:
> 
> E Failed to compile stylesheet. 8 errors detected.
> E Variable filename-prefix has not been declared
> E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> 


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 11:41:35 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:41:35 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
References: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <02c501c3ddea$55b050d0$30a14d52@notebook>

Hi Sean,

I just configured a transformation of the samples/docbook/sample.xml to use
the xsl/html/chunck.xsl stylesheet and I got the result without problems.
Please try the same transformation and let me know what you get.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
To: <oxygen-user at >
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general


> How can I setup a transformation so that it will chunk. When I specify
> chunk.xsl directly I get errors:
>
> E Failed to compile stylesheet. 8 errors detected.
> E Variable filename-prefix has not been declared
> E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> E No template exists named chunk-element-content
>
> --
> Sean Wheller
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 11:54:47 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:54:47 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
In-Reply-To: <02c501c3ddea$55b050d0$30a14d52@notebook>
References: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<02c501c3ddea$55b050d0$30a14d52@notebook>
Message-ID: <200401181954.47545.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi George,

I get the same result on the sample.xml using the basic chunk.xsl. Perhaps I 
am configuring something wrong. Here are the settings for my transformation:

XSL URL: file:/home/sean/apps/oxygen/docbook/xsl/html/chunk.xsl
Transformer: Saxon

Output File > Save As /home/sean/work/enet/book.html

BTW. when I use 

xsltproc  --output myfile.html  mystyles.xsl  myfile.xml

It works.

Sean Wheller

On Sunday 18 January 2004 19:41, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> I just configured a transformation of the samples/docbook/sample.xml to use
> the xsl/html/chunck.xsl stylesheet and I got the result without problems.
> Please try the same transformation and let me know what you get.
>
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
> To: <oxygen-user at >
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 PM
> Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
>
> > How can I setup a transformation so that it will chunk. When I specify
> > chunk.xsl directly I get errors:
> >
> > E Failed to compile stylesheet. 8 errors detected.
> > E Variable filename-prefix has not been declared
> > E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> > E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> > E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> >
> > --
> > Sean Wheller
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > oXygen-user mailing list
> > oXygen-user at 
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 11:56:48 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:56:48 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Howto chunk in general
In-Reply-To: <400ABAF0.4070709@koberg.com>
References: <200401181829.08598.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<400ABAF0.4070709@koberg.com>
Message-ID: <200401181956.48200.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi Robert,

Thanks, but unless you know what chunking means, I don't think you will 
understand.

The reason I am posting here and not on docbook-apps, is because I do get 
other tools to do the chunk transform from the command line.

--
Sean Wheller

On Sunday 18 January 2004 18:57, Robert Koberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Those errors look pretty descriptive. Are you saying that the variables
> have been declared and the templates exist?
>
> I don't know what 'chunk' means, but perhaps you would be better served
> on a docbook or XSL list. From my memory the docbook xsl is relatively
> complex and has a file that declares a bunch of global variable/params
> -- perhaps you have not included it or copied over the relevant
> variable/params.
>
> best,
> -Rob
>
> Sean Wheller wrote:
> > How can I setup a transformation so that it will chunk. When I specify
> > chunk.xsl directly I get errors:
> >
> > E Failed to compile stylesheet. 8 errors detected.
> > E Variable filename-prefix has not been declared
> > E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> > E Variable autolayout-file has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E Variable website.database.document has not been declared
> > E No template exists named chunk-element-content
> > E No template exists named chunk-element-content
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 11:58:36 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:58:36 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] custom layers
Message-ID: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi George,

Attached are my custom layers
-- 
Sean Wheller
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 12:27:05 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:27:05 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers
References: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <030c01c3ddf0$b0a77580$30a14d52@notebook>

Hi Sean,

I tried with this but I disabled the extensions
<xsl:param name="use.extensions" select="0"/>
as I do not have them on this computer and it worked ok, no errors and two
files created in the oxygen directory: index.html and ar01.html.

Are you sure you are using the stylesheets that came with oXygen ?
I extracted them from the kit here:
http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/tmp/oxydoc.tar.gz
These are the ones I used for tests right now.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
To: "George Cristian Bina" <george at >;
<oxygen-user at >
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: custom layers


> Hi George,
>
> Attached are my custom layers
> --
> Sean Wheller
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sun Jan 18 23:47:30 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:47:30 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers
In-Reply-To: <030c01c3ddf0$b0a77580$30a14d52@notebook>
References: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<030c01c3ddf0$b0a77580$30a14d52@notebook>
Message-ID: <200401190747.30267.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi,

Yes I am using the stylesheets provided with the Linux Distribution.

Sean Wheller

On Sunday 18 January 2004 20:27, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> I tried with this but I disabled the extensions
> <xsl:param name="use.extensions" select="0"/>
> as I do not have them on this computer and it worked ok, no errors and two
> files created in the oxygen directory: index.html and ar01.html.
>
> Are you sure you are using the stylesheets that came with oXygen ?
> I extracted them from the kit here:
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/tmp/oxydoc.tar.gz
> These are the ones I used for tests right now.
>
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
> To: "George Cristian Bina" <george at >;
> <oxygen-user at >
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:58 PM
> Subject: custom layers
>
> > Hi George,
> >
> > Attached are my custom layers
> > --
> > Sean Wheller

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan 19 13:15:05 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:15:05 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers
In-Reply-To: <200401190747.30267.sean@enbaya.co.za>
References: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<030c01c3ddf0$b0a77580$30a14d52@notebook>
	<200401190747.30267.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <200401192115.05100.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi George,

I found the problem. This is a strange one. 

In a previous session on the week-end I was toying with website-2.5.0 and I 
had added the catalog.xml to Oxygens XML Catalog list. When trying to 
transform I was confused by the errors as they were not docbook. Thinking 
about the problem it suddenly dawned on me that the errors were from WebSite.

So I removed the catalog entry, closed and restarted Oxygen, then did a 
validation of the HTML customization layer. Guess what .... the document is 
valid and transformations work as expected.

This explains why xsltproc was able to do the transform. xsltproc was not 
aware of the WebSite catalog and the xsl's were valid all along.

The problem seems to be replicated by adding the WebSite catalog.xml to my 
list of XML Catalogs. This catalog does not know where the docbook components 
are, because I have not set it up to do so, yet.

The WebSite catalog was third in the list after the docbook and tei catalog 
entries. Is there a search order used by oxygen. Should it have found the 
entry in the oxygen catalog?

Sean Wheller


On Monday 19 January 2004 07:47, Sean Wheller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes I am using the stylesheets provided with the Linux Distribution.
>
> Sean Wheller
>
> On Sunday 18 January 2004 20:27, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > I tried with this but I disabled the extensions
> > <xsl:param name="use.extensions" select="0"/>
> > as I do not have them on this computer and it worked ok, no errors and
> > two files created in the oxygen directory: index.html and ar01.html.
> >
> > Are you sure you are using the stylesheets that came with oXygen ?
> > I extracted them from the kit here:
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/tmp/oxydoc.tar.gz
> > These are the ones I used for tests right now.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >  George
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> > <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
> > To: "George Cristian Bina" <george at >;
> > <oxygen-user at >
> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:58 PM
> > Subject: custom layers
> >
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > Attached are my custom layers
> > > --
> > > Sean Wheller

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan 19 09:33:26 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Annick FRON)
Date: 19 Jan 2004 16:33:26 +0100
Subject: [oXygen-user] DTD generation in Oxygen 3.0
Message-ID: <1074526406.23606.2.camel@maui.essi.fr>

I have tried to generate DTD and Schema for the Cdcatalog example from
w3schools (http://www.w3schools.com).
I got the schema OK, but a Sax -1 exception for the DTD.

"Approximating datatype content by #PCDATA"

Annick Fron
http://www.essi.fr/~fron


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Mon Jan 19 19:21:06 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Peter Charles)
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:21:06 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Configure External tools
Message-ID: <000b01c3def3$b0767bc0$0400a8c0@fatcity2>

Hello, 

In the command line options of the external tools configuration, the
${cf} macro retrieves a window version of the current file path,
(example: C:\Some Directory\filedir\filename }) is there a way to get
this in a java acceptable format (example: C:/Some
Directory/filedir/filename}) 


Thanks





From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Sat Jan 17 19:12:17 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Ricardo Pietrobon)
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:12:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] question
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>

Hi,


I am using the brand new version 3.0 on a Fedora Core box and I just love
it. The outline box is great and the ability to save configuration
scenarios is very useful. However, I am running into some problems with
the latter. Here is what i did: I saved two scenarios to transform from
docbook to pdf and html, where the output file is always saved to either a
file called html_delete.html or pdf_deleteme.pdf in my home directory, no
matter where the original xml file is. This works perfectly for pdf files,
but for html i keep getting this error message:

Cannot rename temporary file:
/mnt/lite/rpietro/ur/impact/cog_med_brazil/stat_vs_phys/stat_vs_phys.xml_xslt
to: /home/rpietro/html_deleteme.html

I went back and deleted both the .xml_xslt and the original html file but
it still didn't work. If I try to save the transformed html file to the
directory where the original xml file is, it will do it without a problem,
but then the purpose of saving all files to a single location is defeated
since I would have to change the configuration scenario all the time

Any suggestions?

thanks,

Rick

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 01:47:47 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:47:47 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <200401200947.47040.sean@enbaya.co.za>

On Sunday 18 January 2004 03:12, Ricardo Pietrobon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using the brand new version 3.0 on a Fedora Core box and I just love
> it. The outline box is great and the ability to save configuration
> scenarios is very useful. However, I am running into some problems with
> the latter. Here is what i did: I saved two scenarios to transform from
> docbook to pdf and html, where the output file is always saved to either a
> file called html_delete.html or pdf_deleteme.pdf in my home directory, no
> matter where the original xml file is. This works perfectly for pdf files,
> but for html i keep getting this error message:
>
> Cannot rename temporary file:
> /mnt/lite/rpietro/ur/impact/cog_med_brazil/stat_vs_phys/stat_vs_phys.xml_xs
>lt to: /home/rpietro/html_deleteme.html
>
> I went back and deleted both the .xml_xslt and the original html file but
> it still didn't work. If I try to save the transformed html file to the
> directory where the original xml file is, it will do it without a problem,
> but then the purpose of saving all files to a single location is defeated
> since I would have to change the configuration scenario all the time
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
>
> Rick

Hello Rick,

The file stat_vs_phys.xml_xslt is normally generated when transforming to FO. 
It is a temporary XSL-FO file.

It should not be required for HTML Transformation. When you setup the 
configuration senario, you should have no options selected on the FO 
Processor tab. Is this the case?
--
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 02:12:10 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:12:10 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] DTD generation in Oxygen 3.0
References: <1074526406.23606.2.camel@maui.essi.fr>
Message-ID: <00e901c3df2d$1c09c2f0$1300000a@spelling>

Dear Annick Fron,

We are using TRANG behind the convert to action. The workaround for this is
to convert from XML to RNC, edit the RNC to replace datatypes with text and
then convert to DTD:

Step 1. Convert to RNC:

default namespace = ""

start =
  element CATALOG {
    element CD {
      element TITLE { text },
      element ARTIST { text },
      element COUNTRY { xsd:NCName },
      element COMPANY { text },
      element PRICE { xsd:decimal },
      element YEAR { xsd:integer }
    }+
  }

Spep 2. Replace xsd:decimal, xsd:integer and xsd:NCName with text:

default namespace = ""

start =
  element CATALOG {
    element CD {
      element TITLE { text },
      element ARTIST { text },
      element COUNTRY { text },
      element COMPANY { text },
      element PRICE {text },
      element YEAR { text }
    }+
  }

Step 3. Convert to DTD:

<?xml encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!ELEMENT CATALOG (CD)+>
<!ATTLIST CATALOG
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT CD (TITLE,ARTIST,COUNTRY,COMPANY,PRICE,YEAR)>
<!ATTLIST CD
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT TITLE (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST TITLE
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT ARTIST (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST ARTIST
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT COUNTRY (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST COUNTRY
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT COMPANY (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST COMPANY
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT PRICE (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST PRICE
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>

<!ELEMENT YEAR (#PCDATA)>
<!ATTLIST YEAR
  xmlns CDATA #FIXED ''>


We had in 2.0.4 an action called "Learn and save document structure" that
generated a very lax DTD from an XML document. It was removed because that
functionality was somehow overlaping with the Convert to and Associate
schema actions but I guess it will be good to reintroduce it in oXygen 3.1.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Annick FRON" <Annick_Fron_AFC at >
To: <oxygen-user at >
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: [oXygen-user] DTD generation in Oxygen 3.0


> I have tried to generate DTD and Schema for the Cdcatalog example from
> w3schools (http://www.w3schools.com).
> I got the schema OK, but a Sax -1 exception for the DTD.
>
> "Approximating datatype content by #PCDATA"
>
> Annick Fron
> http://www.essi.fr/~fron
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 02:11:03 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:11:03 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] question
In-Reply-To: <200401200947.47040.sean@enbaya.co.za>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
	<200401200947.47040.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <400CE297.9080208@oxygenxml.com>

Hello,

Yes, we know the problem. It was about a stream that was not closed 
properly. Please download the all platforms installation kit from here:

http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/oxygen.tar.gz

Then copy the oxygen.jar file into your installation lib and let me know 
if you still have this problem.

Regrads,

Dan

Sean Wheller wrote:
> On Sunday 18 January 2004 03:12, Ricardo Pietrobon wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am using the brand new version 3.0 on a Fedora Core box and I just love
>>it. The outline box is great and the ability to save configuration
>>scenarios is very useful. However, I am running into some problems with
>>the latter. Here is what i did: I saved two scenarios to transform from
>>docbook to pdf and html, where the output file is always saved to either a
>>file called html_delete.html or pdf_deleteme.pdf in my home directory, no
>>matter where the original xml file is. This works perfectly for pdf files,
>>but for html i keep getting this error message:
>>
>>Cannot rename temporary file:
>>/mnt/lite/rpietro/ur/impact/cog_med_brazil/stat_vs_phys/stat_vs_phys.xml_xs
>>lt to: /home/rpietro/html_deleteme.html
>>
>>I went back and deleted both the .xml_xslt and the original html file but
>>it still didn't work. If I try to save the transformed html file to the
>>directory where the original xml file is, it will do it without a problem,
>>but then the purpose of saving all files to a single location is defeated
>>since I would have to change the configuration scenario all the time
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Rick
> 
> 
> Hello Rick,
> 
> The file stat_vs_phys.xml_xslt is normally generated when transforming to FO. 
> It is a temporary XSL-FO file.
> 
> It should not be required for HTML Transformation. When you setup the 
> configuration senario, you should have no options selected on the FO 
> Processor tab. Is this the case?
> --
> Sean Wheller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 02:17:35 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:17:35 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Configure External tools
In-Reply-To: <000b01c3def3$b0767bc0$0400a8c0@fatcity2>
References: <000b01c3def3$b0767bc0$0400a8c0@fatcity2>
Message-ID: <400CE41F.8060000@oxygenxml.com>

Hello Peter,

The "\" separated paths are specific to Windows platform. Any 
application running on Windows must understand paths separated with "\".
The same macro may be expanded as /home/user name/filename on a Linux 
platform, the separators being "/"

Can you tell me why do you need the paths to be separated with "/"  on 
Windows ?

Best regards,
Dan Caprioara

Peter Charles wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> In the command line options of the external tools configuration, the
> ${cf} macro retrieves a window version of the current file path,
> (example: C:\Some Directory\filedir\filename }) is there a way to get
> this in a java acceptable format (example: C:/Some
> Directory/filedir/filename}) 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 03:00:00 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:00:00 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers
References: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<030c01c3ddf0$b0a77580$30a14d52@notebook>
	<200401190747.30267.sean@enbaya.co.za> <200401192115.05100.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <014c01c3df33$ca757f90$1300000a@spelling>

Hi Sean,

It seems that the website catalog defines the that any reference to
chunk-common.xsl will be resolved to the corresponding Website stylesheet:

    <uri
      name="chunk-common.xsl"
      uri="chunk-common.xsl"/>

There is no conflict with the Docbook catalog. You can try a new stylesheet
and add an import of chunk-common.xsl and on validate you will get an error:
F org.apache.xml.utils.WrappedRuntimeException: Could not find variable with
the name of collect.xref.targets

The interference with Docbook comes from the fact that the chunk.xsl
contains an import of chunk-common.xsl which will be resolved to the one
from Website.

One solution is to edit the Website catalog to remove this mapping.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
To: "George Cristian Bina" <george at >;
<oxygen-user at >
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers


> Hi George,
>
> I found the problem. This is a strange one.
>
> In a previous session on the week-end I was toying with website-2.5.0 and
I
> had added the catalog.xml to Oxygens XML Catalog list. When trying to
> transform I was confused by the errors as they were not docbook. Thinking
> about the problem it suddenly dawned on me that the errors were from
WebSite.
>
> So I removed the catalog entry, closed and restarted Oxygen, then did a
> validation of the HTML customization layer. Guess what .... the document
is
> valid and transformations work as expected.
>
> This explains why xsltproc was able to do the transform. xsltproc was not
> aware of the WebSite catalog and the xsl's were valid all along.
>
> The problem seems to be replicated by adding the WebSite catalog.xml to my
> list of XML Catalogs. This catalog does not know where the docbook
components
> are, because I have not set it up to do so, yet.
>
> The WebSite catalog was third in the list after the docbook and tei
catalog
> entries. Is there a search order used by oxygen. Should it have found the
> entry in the oxygen catalog?
>
> Sean Wheller



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 03:03:13 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:03:13 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: custom layers
In-Reply-To: <014c01c3df33$ca757f90$1300000a@spelling>
References: <200401181958.36440.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<200401192115.05100.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<014c01c3df33$ca757f90$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <200401201103.13817.sean@enbaya.co.za>

On Tuesday 20 January 2004 11:00, George Cristian Bina wrote:
[snip]
> One solution is to edit the Website catalog to remove this mapping.
>
> Best Regards,
>  George

Yes I realize this now. But it sure is a good lesson to remember:-)

Thanks,

Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 12:45:23 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:45:23 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Creating Just FO
Message-ID: <200401202045.23990.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hello,

Sounds like a stupid question. But how do I just create a fo file?
:-)

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 20 14:23:01 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Marius Scurtescu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:23:01 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Creating Just FO
In-Reply-To: <200401202045.23990.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEAEDDCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>

Just do a regular XSL transformation using the FO stylesheets (do
not perform FO processing). The output will be XML, name the
output file accordingly.

Marius

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
> [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ]On Behalf Of Sean Wheller
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: oxygen-user at 
> Subject: [oXygen-user] Creating Just FO
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Sounds like a stupid question. But how do I just create a fo file?
> :-)
> 
> -- 
> Sean Wheller
> 
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 01:12:36 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:12:36 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Creating Just FO
In-Reply-To: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEAEDDCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>
References: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEAEDDCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>
Message-ID: <200401210912.36304.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Yep, I thought it may be that obvious. I just could not think of it.

Thanks,

Sean Wheller

On Tuesday 20 January 2004 22:23, Marius Scurtescu wrote:
> Just do a regular XSL transformation using the FO stylesheets (do
> not perform FO processing). The output will be XML, name the
> output file accordingly.
>
> Marius
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
> > [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ]On Behalf Of Sean Wheller
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:45 AM
> > To: oxygen-user at 
> > Subject: [oXygen-user] Creating Just FO
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sounds like a stupid question. But how do I just create a fo file?
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > --
> > Sean Wheller
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > oXygen-user mailing list
> > oXygen-user at 
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 07:46:35 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:46:35 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Interesting Observation
Message-ID: <200401211546.35573.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi,

Some may recall that I was having problems transforming a large document to 
PDF using FOP-0.20.5 in the pre-release of version 3.0.

As V3.0 pre-release was shipped with FOP-0.20.4 I configured FOP-0.20.5 as an 
External FO Processor. To my dismay I could not get the transform to work.

Now, with the official release, the same document, perhaps a little larger 
[500 pages], is transforming to PDF without problems.

I'm not sure for the reason. But there you goes technology for you.

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 19:01:28 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:01:28 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Interesting Observation
References: <200401211546.35573.sean@enbaya.co.za>
Message-ID: <015e01c3e083$486c98c0$30a14d52@notebook>

Hi Sean,

If you have not specified when you started the FOP as external processor a
maximum heap (using -Xmx option in the fop command line) then the default
was taken which very likely was 64MB. In oXygen 3.0 the bundled Apache FOP
maximum heap is controlled from the options and I guess you have a larger
value specified for it.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
To: <oxygen-user at >
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: [oXygen-user] Interesting Observation


> Hi,
>
> Some may recall that I was having problems transforming a large document
to
> PDF using FOP-0.20.5 in the pre-release of version 3.0.
>
> As V3.0 pre-release was shipped with FOP-0.20.4 I configured FOP-0.20.5 as
an
> External FO Processor. To my dismay I could not get the transform to work.
>
> Now, with the official release, the same document, perhaps a little larger
> [500 pages], is transforming to PDF without problems.
>
> I'm not sure for the reason. But there you goes technology for you.
>
> --
> Sean Wheller
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 19:28:57 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:28:57 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] How to avoid .
References: <20040112143710.45138.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <018a01c3e087$1efbc890$30a14d52@notebook>

Hi Sean,

Try adding the element(s) you want to preserve the formatting for to the
Options->Preferences --- Editor/Format/Preserve space elements list. Some
alternatives are
 - put the "sensible" content in a CDATA section.
 - use xml:space="preserve" on that element(s) (Docbook does not support
xml:space although there is a RFE for some time so your document will became
invalid but well formedness will not be affected).
 - use indent selection from the contextual menu (this does just indenting
of tags, no content wrapping).

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Wheller" <seanwhe at >
To: <oxygen-user at >
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: [oXygen-user] How to avoid .


> Hi,
>
> How can I avoid having the value of a glossary element
> wrap.
>
> The problem is that when the value wraps the glossary
> cannot find the entry in the database. This is because
> of the whitespace that is created by line wrap, it
> think.
>
> So I will get messages such as this:
> There's no entry for Common Object Request Broker
>                 Architecture in resources/glossary.xml
> There's no entry for Remote Method
>                 Invocation in resources/glossary.xml
> There's no entry for Transmission
>                     Control Protocol over Internet
> Protocol in resources/glossary.xml
> There's no entry for Microsoft
>                 Windows Distributed interNet
> Architecture in resources/glossary.xml
> There's no entry for Extensible Markup
>                         Language in
> resources/glossary.xml
>
>
> Yet when I check resources/glossary.xml a glossentry
> does exist.
>
> Sean Wheller
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes
> http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 23:31:55 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:31:55 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Interesting Observation
In-Reply-To: <015e01c3e083$486c98c0$30a14d52@notebook>
References: <200401211546.35573.sean@enbaya.co.za>
	<015e01c3e083$486c98c0$30a14d52@notebook>
Message-ID: <200401220731.55122.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Hi,

Not quite. I did specify the memory in the fop.sh.

Anyway, I think this is a good bit of info to add to the HOWTO on Configuring 
an External FO Processor. I will do the update later today.

Sean Wheller

On Thursday 22 January 2004 03:01, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> If you have not specified when you started the FOP as external processor a
> maximum heap (using -Xmx option in the fop command line) then the default
> was taken which very likely was 64MB. In oXygen 3.0 the bundled Apache FOP
> maximum heap is controlled from the options and I guess you have a larger
> value specified for it.
>
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Wheller" <sean at >
> To: <oxygen-user at >
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: [oXygen-user] Interesting Observation
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some may recall that I was having problems transforming a large document
>
> to
>
> > PDF using FOP-0.20.5 in the pre-release of version 3.0.
> >
> > As V3.0 pre-release was shipped with FOP-0.20.4 I configured FOP-0.20.5
> > as
>
> an
>
> > External FO Processor. To my dismay I could not get the transform to
> > work.
> >
> > Now, with the official release, the same document, perhaps a little
> > larger [500 pages], is transforming to PDF without problems.
> >
> > I'm not sure for the reason. But there you goes technology for you.
> >
> > --
> > Sean Wheller
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > oXygen-user mailing list
> > oXygen-user at 
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 21 11:26:11 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Ricardo Pietrobon)
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:26:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [oXygen-user] question
In-Reply-To: <400CE297.9080208@oxygenxml.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
 <200401200947.47040.sean@enbaya.co.za> <400CE297.9080208@oxygenxml.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401211224330.23900@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>

Dan, I had actually installed from the all platforms kit form the very
start. Anyway, I got the file again and then transferred oxygen.jar to the
lib directory, but I'm still getting the same error message. Any other
thoughts?


On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Dan Caprioara wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Yes, we know the problem. It was about a stream that was not closed
> properly. Please download the all platforms installation kit from here:
>
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/oxygen.tar.gz
>
> Then copy the oxygen.jar file into your installation lib and let me know
> if you still have this problem.
>
> Regrads,
>
> Dan
>
> Sean Wheller wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 January 2004 03:12, Ricardo Pietrobon wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I am using the brand new version 3.0 on a Fedora Core box and I just love
> >>it. The outline box is great and the ability to save configuration
> >>scenarios is very useful. However, I am running into some problems with
> >>the latter. Here is what i did: I saved two scenarios to transform from
> >>docbook to pdf and html, where the output file is always saved to either a
> >>file called html_delete.html or pdf_deleteme.pdf in my home directory, no
> >>matter where the original xml file is. This works perfectly for pdf files,
> >>but for html i keep getting this error message:
> >>
> >>Cannot rename temporary file:
> >>/mnt/lite/rpietro/ur/impact/cog_med_brazil/stat_vs_phys/stat_vs_phys.xml_xs
> >>lt to: /home/rpietro/html_deleteme.html
> >>
> >>I went back and deleted both the .xml_xslt and the original html file but
> >>it still didn't work. If I try to save the transformed html file to the
> >>directory where the original xml file is, it will do it without a problem,
> >>but then the purpose of saving all files to a single location is defeated
> >>since I would have to change the configuration scenario all the time
> >>
> >>Any suggestions?
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Rick
> >
> >
> > Hello Rick,
> >
> > The file stat_vs_phys.xml_xslt is normally generated when transforming to FO.
> > It is a temporary XSL-FO file.
> >
> > It should not be required for HTML Transformation. When you setup the
> > configuration senario, you should have no options selected on the FO
> > Processor tab. Is this the case?
> > --
> > Sean Wheller
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > oXygen-user mailing list
> > oXygen-user at 
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>
>
>

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Thu Jan 22 02:02:18 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Dan Caprioara)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:02:18 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401211224330.23900@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0401172005430.6240@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
	<200401200947.47040.sean@enbaya.co.za> <400CE297.9080208@oxygenxml.com>
	<Pine.GSO.4.58.0401211224330.23900@godzilla.acpub.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <400F838A.8070601@oxygenxml.com>

Hello Rick,

I have attached a "log4j.properties" file. Copy it into the installation 
directory, and try to reproduce the problem. Reply with the oxygen.log 
file created in the same directory.

Thank you,
Dan


Ricardo Pietrobon wrote:

> Dan, I had actually installed from the all platforms kit form the very
> start. Anyway, I got the file again and then transferred oxygen.jar to the
> lib directory, but I'm still getting the same error message. Any other
> thoughts?
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Dan Caprioara wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>Yes, we know the problem. It was about a stream that was not closed
>>properly. Please download the all platforms installation kit from here:
>>
>>http://www.oxygenxml.com/InstData/All/oxygen.tar.gz
>>
>>Then copy the oxygen.jar file into your installation lib and let me know
>>if you still have this problem.
>>
>>Regrads,
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>Sean Wheller wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday 18 January 2004 03:12, Ricardo Pietrobon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I am using the brand new version 3.0 on a Fedora Core box and I just love
>>>>it. The outline box is great and the ability to save configuration
>>>>scenarios is very useful. However, I am running into some problems with
>>>>the latter. Here is what i did: I saved two scenarios to transform from
>>>>docbook to pdf and html, where the output file is always saved to either a
>>>>file called html_delete.html or pdf_deleteme.pdf in my home directory, no
>>>>matter where the original xml file is. This works perfectly for pdf files,
>>>>but for html i keep getting this error message:
>>>>
>>>>Cannot rename temporary file:
>>>>/mnt/lite/rpietro/ur/impact/cog_med_brazil/stat_vs_phys/stat_vs_phys.xml_xs
>>>>lt to: /home/rpietro/html_deleteme.html
>>>>
>>>>I went back and deleted both the .xml_xslt and the original html file but
>>>>it still didn't work. If I try to save the transformed html file to the
>>>>directory where the original xml file is, it will do it without a problem,
>>>>but then the purpose of saving all files to a single location is defeated
>>>>since I would have to change the configuration scenario all the time
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello Rick,
>>>
>>>The file stat_vs_phys.xml_xslt is normally generated when transforming to FO.
>>>It is a temporary XSL-FO file.
>>>
>>>It should not be required for HTML Transformation. When you setup the
>>>configuration senario, you should have no options selected on the FO
>>>Processor tab. Is this the case?
>>>--
>>>Sean Wheller
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>oXygen-user mailing list
>>>oXygen-user at 
>>>http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>>
>>
>>

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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan 23 12:11:04 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:11:04 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] I can't resist :)
Message-ID: <013701c3e1dc$47cd56c0$30a14d52@notebook>

http://norman.walsh.name/2004/01/22/oxygen

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan 23 12:22:04 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Marius Scurtescu)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:22:04 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] I can't resist :)
In-Reply-To: <013701c3e1dc$47cd56c0$30a14d52@notebook>
Message-ID: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEMEEBCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>

Congratulations! This is a really nice review.

Marius

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
> [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ]On Behalf Of George Cristian
> Bina
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:11 AM
> To: Oxygen-User
> Subject: [oXygen-user] I can't resist :)
> 
> 
> http://norman.walsh.name/2004/01/22/oxygen
> 
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan 23 13:07:45 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:07:45 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] I can't resist :)
In-Reply-To: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEMEEBCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>
References: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEMEEBCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>
Message-ID: <200401232107.45375.sean@enbaya.co.za>

Wow, that from Norm is a big compliment and I think one that is well deserved 
and has been a long time comming.

Excellent and thanks for sharing it.

Sean Wheller

On Friday 23 January 2004 20:22, Marius Scurtescu wrote:
> Congratulations! This is a really nice review.
>
> Marius
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
> > [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ]On Behalf Of George Cristian
> > Bina
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:11 AM
> > To: Oxygen-User
> > Subject: [oXygen-user] I can't resist :)
> >
> >
> > http://norman.walsh.name/2004/01/22/oxygen
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >  George
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> > <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > oXygen-user mailing list
> > oXygen-user at 
> > http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
>
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user

-- 
Sean Wheller


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 10:37:09 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:37:09 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
Message-ID: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>

Hi all,

I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.
Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an idea
of how this would look like.

Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go in oXygen
3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
text content.

http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/




From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 10:32:57 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Robert Koberg)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:32:57 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <401692B9.3060407@koberg.com>

George Cristian Bina wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
> the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.


I assumes the attention where the cursor is -- not the center, right?

I am -1 on this. I like to see everything crisply.


> Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an idea
> of how this would look like.
> 
> Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go in oXygen
> 3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
> text content.
> 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg


I would love to have Apache Ant intergration, similar to how you can run 
builds in eclipse.

best,
-Rob



> 
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> oXygen-user mailing list
> oXygen-user at 
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 11:41:50 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Marius Scurtescu)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:41:50 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <INEPKANEJCBOPHOOJHNEAEEKCKAA.mscurtescu@healthmetrx.com>

My first reaction was that fading text out does not make
any sense. If I don't want to see that much text then I
can resize the window (and I never do that).

On the other hand being a totally new idea I could
miss something, we always say no to something new.

Did you see this behavior in some other editor?

Other options would be to fade out lines not by
proximity but by context. In a programming language
you could fade out code outside the current function
or block you are editing. In XML you could use the
current tag and a few parent tags as the context.

Marius

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
> [mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ]On Behalf Of George Cristian
> Bina
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:37 AM
> To: oxygen-user at 
> Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
> the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.
> Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an idea
> of how this would look like.
>
> Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go
> in oXygen
> 3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
> text content.
>
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg
>
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 11:48:54 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Hiroshi Okugawa)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:48:54 -0500
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <200401271748.i0RHmsj17782@mailr2.asahi-net.or.jp>

Hi George,

In message "[oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature"
 At Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:37:09 +0200
 "George Cristian Bina" <george at >-san writes.
Message-ID: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a at >
|I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
|the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.
|Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an idea
|of how this would look like.

It may get interesting impression. 
I don't think it is useful. Actually our brain could focus 
the important area unconsciously. I think.

IMHO, you'd better focus to other useful functions.. 


|Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go in oXygen
|3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
|text content.

It looks nice!

|http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg

Thanks,
-- 
Hiroshi

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 11:49:49 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Peter Charles)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:49:49 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <000501c3e4fd$f62981c0$0300a8c0@fatcity2>

No, I would not find this useful.  How would oxygen know what part of
the document I am examining?

Peter Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: oxygen-user-bounces at 
[mailto:oxygen-user-bounces at ] On Behalf Of George Cristian
Bina
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:37 AM
To: oxygen-user at 
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature

Hi all,

I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to
fade
the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing
area.
Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an
idea
of how this would look like.

Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go in
oXygen
3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
text content.

http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/



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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 13:26:00 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Manfred Schneider)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:26:00 +0100
Subject: [oXygen-user] Re: Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <200401272026.00753.manfred@manfred-schneider.de>

Hi George,

On Tuesday 27 January 2004 17:37, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility
> to fade the lines that are not in the center of the attention in
> the editing area. Do you find this useful ? Please look at the
> snapshot below to get an idea of how this would look like.

I would not prefer such a fading facility. For me the UI becomes less 
readable. Especially reading documents from top to bottom becomes 
more difficult.

Another option would be: to integrate a collapse/expand facility in 
the *editor window*. And add buttons/functions to easily expand / 
collapse (several) subtrees. There are many other IDEs/source editors 
which allow such collapsing/expanding.

> Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go
> in oXygen 3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some
> attibutes and/or text content.

This looks great :-)

Kind regards, Manfred




From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 13:49:24 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Sean Wheller)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:49:24 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <200401272149.24856.sean@enbaya.co.za>

On Tuesday 27 January 2004 18:37, George Cristian Bina wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
> the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.
> Do you find this useful ? Please look at the snapshot below to get an idea
> of how this would look like.
>
> Also you may see in the screenshot an actual feature that will go in oXygen
> 3.1 in February: the outliner will be able to show some attibutes and/or
> text content.
>
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/update/oxygen20040127.jpg

Hello George,

First, thanks for requesting user input. It is rare if ever that users get the 
opportunity to do so. SyncRO has been consistent about receiving user 
feedback and I believe that this has in a small way helped to make Oxygen the 
great XML Editor that it is.

I sat and pondered long and hard about the fade feature. As a person who sits 
about 75% of the day infront of Oxygen and uses it to author documents I 
tried to imagine and animate this feature in my minds eye. I did this for 
about twenty minutes and ran through a number of thoughts related to 
usability etc.

I then opened Oxygen and tried the same exercise using a long document. The 
result was amazing. My focus was immediately drawn to the portion of text 
that I would be editing. My focus was cleaner and I was less distracted by 
the on screen surroundings. It almost created a window or view panel inside 
the page. Other parts of the interface were also taken out of focus.

I then left and had a cup of coffee. When I returned I realized just how long 
it took me to locate my position on a screen that on average displays about 
40 lines (I set my font to serif 16 as this is less tiring on the eyes). I 
then went and watch the news, this time when I returned I looked at your 
image. My focus was immediately drawn to the darker area. This is a natural 
neuro-optical reflex described by, I think, Carl Jung but don't ask me for a 
reference.

I know that when I am working, I am intensely focused on a text area. Over the 
years I have learned to filter out desktop items such as the taskbar and the 
menu/toolbars of the editor. Perhaps this would further assist this automatic 
and natural reflex of the mind.

I cannot for certain say whether or not this feature would have a positive or 
negative impact while editing.  I ask myself, will it create a tunnel vision 
and therefore induce eye strain and headache? I would have to try it for a 
day.

>From a pure esthetic perspective it does look good, but looks should not go 
above functionality, preservation of resources and usability.

I don't think that everyone will enjoy using this feature unless they could 
draw some benefit in the way of productivity or an aid thereto. Many years of 
working in an editing interface that is without hue or depth has moulded our 
perception of how an editor page view should look. Some people find it hard 
to author in amongst the tags. In a word processor many people that they 
cannot edit while control characters are shown. Many people report that the 
addition of any feature other than those associated with formatting is a 
distraction. Will this have the same effect? Interestingly, most people do 
become accustomed to having these so called distractions amongst there text. 
There seems to be a point where they cannot work without them. It starts with 
the person having to accept the use for a purpose and gradually becomes the 
norm. Thereafter they find it difficult to work without these controls.

So perhaps it should not be a default, but an option. I for one would love to 
try the effects, it would make an interesting article:-)

Perhaps you could expand on the rational for introducing this feature.

HTH,
-- 
Sean Wheller



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Tue Jan 27 18:08:12 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Richard Folwell)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:08:12 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
Message-ID: <21859441.1075248493512.JavaMail.root@www.folwell.com>

>> I would like to ask you how you feel about adding the possibility to fade
>> the lines that are not in the center of the attention in the editing area.

I like it a lot.  It provides extra cues to focus on the part of the document you are working on, without losing the context.  However I would want to see how it behaves in the face of rapid scrolling - when you want to move your point of attention to a different part of the document manually, rather than searching.

It almost gives the impression that the text is wrapped around a large drum, with the nearest lines being most visible.

I also like the idea suggested by someone else, that it be switchable (presumably it can be switched off for those people who don't like it) to provide focus not by number of lines, but by the current document element.  (It is hard to know which is going to be best without being able to try it out).

Richard


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 03:06:52 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:06:52 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <01a701c3e57e$13e96a10$1300000a@spelling>

Thank you for your replies.

I found this idea back in August while reading an weblog entry that had a
reference to oXygen. I tried to find that and finally got it:

http://www.xml-blog.com/archives/000131.html

Then this idea came back these days and yesterday I took 10 minutes and
hacked the view to apply an alpha on the lines from 1 to 15 and from 25 on,
leaving the 15-25 range to display normally. You saw the result.

I want to clarify that our focus is on important XML related features (we do
not waste the time :), this is just a possible feature and that is why I
wanted to get some feedback. Also if we will add such a feature it will not
be the default.

I thought that the lines displayed normally should be around the cursor.
Also there should be available some parameters to configure how many lines
should be presented normally, the alpha factor and the minimum alpha factor
to avoid the text to disappear completely for areas that are far from the
focus zone. I'm sure that also adding some document structure knowledge as
Marius suggested should be an interesting option.

I think we have to try it for real before giving it up. So I will try to
link it to the current line and make that available for tests on a few days.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/




From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 03:15:59 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:15:59 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<401692B9.3060407@koberg.com>
Message-ID: <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>

Hi Rob,

> I would love to have Apache Ant intergration, similar to how you can run
> builds in eclipse.

You should be able to configure an external tool to execute ant, see
Options->Preferences -- External tools.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/



From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 03:26:05 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:26:05 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Folding [was Re: Comments about a possible new feature]
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<200401272026.00753.manfred@manfred-schneider.de>
Message-ID: <01d201c3e580$c2d8ab60$1300000a@spelling>

Hi Manfred,

> Another option would be: to integrate a collapse/expand facility in
> the *editor window*. And add buttons/functions to easily expand /
> collapse (several) subtrees. There are many other IDEs/source editors
> which allow such collapsing/expanding.

We thought about this.  To be able to implement it we needed to know the
document stucture. The model behind the outliner provides exactly this so we
got closer.

Best Regards,
 George
-------------------------------------------------------------
George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
<oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/





From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 09:13:31 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Robert Koberg)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:13:31 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<401692B9.3060407@koberg.com> <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <4017D19B.2050309@koberg.com>

George Cristian Bina wrote:

> Hi Rob,
> 
> 
>>I would love to have Apache Ant intergration, similar to how you can run
>>builds in eclipse.
> 
> 
> You should be able to configure an external tool to execute ant, see
> Options->Preferences -- External tools.

Cool.

...I just tried it by defining the working directory as the location of 
my build.xml and then 'ant' as my command line (/project/@default='all').

It gives:

CreateProcess: ant error=2
Process ended with exit code -1

The build file works fine when used from the command line (JDK 1.4.2, 
Ant 1.6.0, cygwin on winXP in the case I tried).

---

I did some quick searching and found no clear solution. It is a simple 
build file that does a bunch of transforms. It uses only Core Tasks.

I also tried 'ant all' as the command line and get the same error.

Any ideas?

    ----------

On another note, is there any info available about building plugins for 
Oxygen? Perhaps all we might need is the source for the existing 
plugins, especially (for me), the source for the schema documentation 
plugin. I don't mean the XSL file, rather the java to show an example of 
how we hook into Oxygen core. I have a few ideas for plugins; one being 
an Ant interface, another being using Oxygen as an interface for our CMS.

best,
-Rob


> 
> Best Regards,
>  George
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> George Cristian Bina mailto:george at 
> <oXygen/> XML Editor - http://www.oxygenxml.com/
> 
> 


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 12:38:33 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:38:33 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<401692B9.3060407@koberg.com> <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>
	<4017D19B.2050309@koberg.com>
Message-ID: <03a701c3e5cd$f2ef6ee0$30a14d52@notebook>

Hi Robert,

> ...I just tried it by defining the working directory as the location of
> my build.xml and then 'ant' as my command line (/project/@default='all').
>
> It gives:
>
> CreateProcess: ant error=2
> Process ended with exit code -1

Try to set the command line to ant.bat. I gave it a try and it works fine.

> On another note, is there any info available about building plugins for
> Oxygen? Perhaps all we might need is the source for the existing
> plugins, especially (for me), the source for the schema documentation
> plugin. I don't mean the XSL file, rather the java to show an example of
> how we hook into Oxygen core. I have a few ideas for plugins; one being
> an Ant interface, another being using Oxygen as an interface for our CMS.

Have a look at
http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=286
As I said there, the plugin support in the standalone version is quite
limited and it was developed at user requests so feel free to discuss with
us your needs.

Best Regards,
 George


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 13:04:41 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Robert Koberg)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:04:41 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <03a701c3e5cd$f2ef6ee0$30a14d52@notebook>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<401692B9.3060407@koberg.com> <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>
	<4017D19B.2050309@koberg.com> <03a701c3e5cd$f2ef6ee0$30a14d52@notebook>
Message-ID: <401807C9.1000100@koberg.com>

George Cristian Bina wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> 
> 
>>...I just tried it by defining the working directory as the location of
>>my build.xml and then 'ant' as my command line (/project/@default='all').
>>
>>It gives:
>>
>>CreateProcess: ant error=2
>>Process ended with exit code -1
> 
> 
> Try to set the command line to ant.bat. I gave it a try and it works fine.

that worked

> 
> 
>>On another note, is there any info available about building plugins for
>>Oxygen? Perhaps all we might need is the source for the existing
>>plugins, especially (for me), the source for the schema documentation
>>plugin. I don't mean the XSL file, rather the java to show an example of
>>how we hook into Oxygen core. I have a few ideas for plugins; one being
>>an Ant interface, another being using Oxygen as an interface for our CMS.
> 
> 
> Have a look at
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=286

Cool. The API is all I need. You mention Eclipse as the way to extend 
oXygen. I would like to avoid that because the clients (cms admin/users) 
I have in mind are relatively non technical and I fear Eclipse would 
overwhelm them. But I guess it is an option.

> As I said there, the plugin support in the standalone version is quite
> limited and it was developed at user requests so feel free to discuss with
> us your needs.

OK. I am not ready to devote time right now--currently trying to get our 
next major release out and business has been booming.

I would need to get access to the UI to create nav/topic/project/asset 
trees, tabs+controls and property windows. I would also need a unique 
search interface (currently using Lucene to index XML 
content/configuration). I use XML configurations for these and could of 
course transform them to a required schema or java code.

I will email you (offlist) some ideas when I get more time.

thanks,
-Rob

> 
> Best Regards,
>  George
> 


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 18:17:39 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Robert Koberg)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:17:39 -0800
Subject: [oXygen-user] Comments about a possible new feature
In-Reply-To: <401807C9.1000100@koberg.com>
References: <05c501c3e4f3$d01a8290$1300000a@spelling>
	<401692B9.3060407@koberg.com> <01c201c3e57f$59adde40$1300000a@spelling>
	<4017D19B.2050309@koberg.com> <03a701c3e5cd$f2ef6ee0$30a14d52@notebook>
	<401807C9.1000100@koberg.com>
Message-ID: <40185123.70708@koberg.com>

Robert Koberg wrote:

> George Cristian Bina wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>
>>
>> Try to set the command line to ant.bat. I gave it a try and it works 
>> fine.
> 
> 
> that worked

I am noticing one thing that behaves differently when running a build 
file from the (cygwin) command line and running the exact same build 
file through oxygen. It involves running a transformation that uses an 
Ant xmlcatalog element. The xsl:include/import's work, but the document 
function does not go to the resolver. It just uses the identifier, for 
example with the xmlcatalog below:

<xsl:apply-templates select="document('placeholder')"/>

should resolve to:
${project.content.dir}/placeholder.xml

but it resolves to the working dir adding the identifier.


A transformation looks like:
...
<xslt in="${project.site.xml}" out="${project.dev.dir}/feeds/index.html"
       reloadstylesheet="no" style="${project.xslt}">
   <param expression="${publish.timestamp}" name="date_time"/>
   <xmlcatalog refid="lsb_catalog"/>
</xslt>
...

The xmlcatalog looks like:

<xmlcatalog id="lsb_catalog">
   <entity location="${lsb.global_defs.xslt}" 
publicId="global_definitions.xsl"/>
   <entity location="${lsb.common.xslt}" publicId="common.xsl"/>

   <entity location="${project.content.dir}/placeholder.xml" 
publicId="placeholder"/>
</xmlcatalog>

Again, the same build.xml works when using the command line with cygwin.

This is not a huge issue, but something is getting messed up. I remember 
some Jaxp option but I can't find it now. I got an update message when I 
restarted oXygen today, so I updated. Now I don't see a Jaxp preference. 
I am pretty sure I set it to 
org.apache.xalan.processor.TransformerFactoryImpl. Could some lingering 
setting be affecting the transformation. For example, the URIResolver is 
getting set correctly on the factory, but not on the Transformer??

best,
-Rob

From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Wed Jan 28 21:38:54 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Wendell Piez)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:38:54 -0500
Subject: [oXygen-user] oXygen wish-list
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040128211437.029d02a0@earthlink.net>

Hi Oxygenites,

I've been using oXygen for about six weeks now. I really like it. I agree 
with Norm Walsh that it hits a sweet spot. I hope it continues to be 
available on all the major platforms: that's a key feature long-term, I think.

I upgraded the RAM on my Win2K machine so I could run it happily (for a 
long time I had been laboring every time I ran a serious Java application), 
and have found it all in all to be an excellent investment.

What I particularly like is that oXygen is actually a file editor, although 
with many of the features one likes in a structured editor. (The 
code-insight feature is great!) This means that it's very flexible and 
forgiving with not-quite-yet-XML, which I find very useful. (I believe 
there's also still room in the market for a strong structured editor, 
especially since Corel's product seems to have taken a wrong turn, but 
that's a different kind of application in my view.)

I am also a big fan of RelaxNG (though old-fashioned DTDs also have their 
virtues), and I like to oXygen's support for it.

I've been collecting a list of things I'd personally like to see, though I 
can't say they amount to anything substantial. They're mostly user 
interface things that I have liked in other tools. (Remember it took me six 
weeks to think of all these!)

     * Operate a stylesheet with the "-a" flag (Saxon) or Xalan
       equivalent (that is, reading xml-stylesheet PI from document).
     * Set up a scenario with output file name or other parameters
       provided at runtime (with replacement expressions such as
       $Basename to use the source file's basename)
     * Add xslt to recognized extensions (or set your own).
     * Show me Saxon's error messages!? (Maybe I haven't got this set
     * Macros / tagging clips (eg paste in custom tag structure)
     * Enhanced outline views (oh you're working on this)
     * Improvements to Find/Replace dialogs
           o reposition and pin
           o using checkbox for "from top" is a pain, I'd prefer
             file wrap (or have it in addition)
           o a "replace all" button? (I am getting used to a two-screen-
             deep "replace" and like it for case-by-case, but also like
             a replace all in front)
     * Enhancements to Project interface
           o context menu "open in browser"
           o context menu "copy file name to clipboard"

...which all in all, ought to be enough requests from one user --

Congratulations on a fine tool!

Regards,
Wendell




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From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan 30 06:41:20 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (George Cristian Bina)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:41:20 +0200
Subject: [oXygen-user] oXygen wish-list
References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040128211437.029d02a0@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <01d901c3e72e$5e1aea80$1300000a@spelling>

Hi Wendell,

Thank you for your feedback, we added your requests on our bugzilla.
We plan for the beginning of next week the first oXygen 3 maintenance
release. As you noticed, along with some fixes, it will improve the outliner
to show the value of the first attribute and some of the text content of the
element.

Best Regards,
 George


From bogus@does.not.exist.com  Fri Jan 30 11:04:43 2004
From: bogus@does.not.exist.com (Wendell Piez)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:04:43 -0500
Subject: [oXygen-user] oXygen wish-list
In-Reply-To: <01d901c3e72e$5e1aea80$1300000a@spelling>
References: <6.0.0.22.0.20040128211437.029d02a0@earthlink.net>
 <01d901c3e72e$5e1aea80$1300000a@spelling>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040130115528.02d427a8@earthlink.net>

Hi George,

At 07:41 AM 1/30/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Wendell,
>
>Thank you for your feedback, we added your requests on our bugzilla.

Excellent, thanks!

>We plan for the beginning of next week the first oXygen 3 maintenance
>release. As you noticed, along with some fixes, it will improve the outliner
>to show the value of the first attribute and some of the text content of the
>element.

That'll be great. Long-term it would be nice to be able to configure 
exactly what's shown in the outline view (maybe by assigning relative XPath 
location paths to element types?), but this'll be a big help if only to 
show template match patterns in XSLT.

I'll continue to collect little it-would-be-nice-if items, and spam you 
with them from time to time.

Cheers,
Wendell


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Wendell Piez                            mailto:wapiez at 
Mulberry Technologies, Inc.                http://www.mulberrytech.com
17 West Jefferson Street                    Direct Phone: 301/315-9635
Suite 207                                          Phone: 301/315-9631
Rockville, MD  20850                                 Fax: 301/315-8285
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   Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML
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