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general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:32 pm
by Sano
If I use a general exclude for all defined profiling attributes in a DITAVAL file like
all DITA elements are hidden/excluded in oxygen author 17.1 (and previous for Win7, 64bit) regardless of whether an element contains an profiling attribute or not.
DITA-OT 1.8.5/2.x.x publishing works fine.
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:20 pm
by Radu
Hi,
Thanks for reporting this issue, your analysis is correct.
It looks like a bug in Oxygen, we'll look into this and try to fix it in the next Oxygen version (version 18, next year in Spring).
Regards,
Radu
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:49 pm
by jochemdevos
Hello,
Registered to the forums to second the issue from OP and follow up with the following question:
Is there a workaround to achieve the 'exclude element unless one or more profiling attribute encountered' that works with Oxygen Author 17?
My current solution is using DITAVAL for each specific condition set:
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<val>
<prop action="exclude"/>
<prop action="include" att="manualID" val="100"/>
</val>
(manualID is one of my custom profiling attributes. this ditaval produces the desired transformed output but is unreadable in oxygen XML author as described by OP)
Thanks and kind regards,
Jochem de Vos
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:57 pm
by Radu
Hi Jochem,
The issue is already fixed and it will be available in Oxygen 18 (April-May this year).
As a possible workaround, in your DITAVAL instead of:
you would use explicit excludes for each of the profiling attributes that you are using in your project:
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<prop action="exclude" att="manualID"/>
<prop action="exclude" att="otherProfAttr1"/>
<prop action="exclude" att="otherProfAttr2"/>
...................
Regards,
Radu
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:15 pm
by jochemdevos
Thanks Radu, that does indeed resolve the interface issue.
The problem I really was after turns out to be using semicolons (;) as seperator for profiling attributes, which doesnt play nice with multiple attributes. e.g. <ph variant="x;y"> doesnt produce the same as <ph variant="x y"> in the transformation.
Anyway, now I will keep using space as seperator and not use it in profiling attribute values. (eg possible <ph variant="foo_bar hello_world"> instead of <ph variant="foo bar;hello world").
Cheers
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:37 am
by Radu
Hi,
The DITA specification states that the profiling attributes should be separated using spaces.
You must not change this if you want the publishing to work. So even if Oxygen as an editor will allow you in the Preferences->Editor / Edit modes / Author / Profiling/Conditional Text page to change attribute value separators for any framework, you must go with the separators which are supported by the specification.
Regards,
Radu
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:49 am
by jochemdevos
Radu wrote:Hi,
The DITA specification states that the profiling attributes should be separated using spaces.
You must not change this if you want the publishing to work. So even if Oxygen as an editor will allow you in the Preferences->Editor / Edit modes / Author / Profiling/Conditional Text page to change attribute value separators for any framework, you must go with the separators which are supported by the specification.
Regards,
Radu
Thanks for the explanation
I assumed the profiling attributes seperators in OxygenXML were all supported by DITA. Thanks for clearing that up.
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:32 pm
by Sano
Additionally, if you have a '-' in your attribute value, oxygen author interprets it as a value separator
although
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Multiple values separated by = <space>
is set
DITAVAL:
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<prop action="include" att="props" val="24-24"/>
<prop action="exclude" att="props" val="24"/>
DITA-Topic;
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<p props="24">This text should not be displayed in Oxygen author but it does</p>
DITA-OT 1.8.5 publishing works fine.
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:39 pm
by Radu
Hi,
I cannot reproduce this behavior using Oxygen 17.1 standalone.
I created a DITAVAL file with your sample content, I created a topic with your sample paragraph, created a profiling condition set which uses the ditaval, applied the profiling condition set using the toolbar funnel-shaped action and the paragraph appeared faded out to me.
Regards,
Radu
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:38 pm
by Sano
Radu wrote:Hi,
I cannot reproduce this behavior using Oxygen 17.1 standalone.
I created a DITAVAL file with your sample content, I created a topic with your sample paragraph, created a profiling condition set which uses the ditaval, applied the profiling condition set using the toolbar funnel-shaped action and the paragraph appeared faded out to me.
Simple user error.
The problem was caused by a missing "general exclude statement" in the DITAVAL
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<prop action="exclude" att="props"/>
for the specific attribute.
Thanks
Re: general DITAVAL exclude hides all elements in Author mode
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:40 am
by Radu
Thanks for updating the thread.
Regards,
Radu