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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">@colsep</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> is allowed on the <colspec>, <entry>, <table>, and <tgroup> elements; and
<b>@rowsep</b> is allowed on the <colspec>, <entry>, <row>, <table>, and <tgroup> elements. However, the meaning of setting those attributes to “1” on some elements is unclear (e.g., what should <colspec rowsep=</span><b>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1</span><b>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">>
produce?), and different applications may not interpret them the same way. Setting the attributes on each <entry> may be tedious but should be unambiguous.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael R. Boudreau<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The University of Chicago Press<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">oXygen-user <oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com> on behalf of Frank Dissinger <frank.dissinger@cgs-oris.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:19 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Oxygen User Mailing List <oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hm... These attributes were set on <table> and <tgroup> in my DITA files, but not on <entry>, and the attribute value was sometimes = "0", sometimes = "1". Nevertheless the tables rendered correctly, but perhaps only because I have set up the CSS and MiramoPDF
styles to create frames for all table cells for all <table> elements. I'll have to investigate this...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>So perhaps, to keep my DITA data portable and to ensure they are rendered correctly with other transformations, it would be safer to also set @colsep and @rowsep to "1". But really for each <entry>? Wouldn't it be enough for <table>?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Frank<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 12.04.2023 um 16:36 schrieb Michael Boudreau:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">For a CALS table, <b>@frame=</b></span><b>"</b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">all</span>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> draws a border around all four outside edges of the table; it does not affect
the interior lines. See <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/dtd.nlm.nih.gov/options/OASIS/tag-library/19990315/index.html__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!9LJkNBvzzhYkZ6RRgxHc8PptvwXf7D7kYS-jj9SAKAY5g_nHNLp8IWWqZGMsIfkLU7yYIjRNkhmrYvkw5bqxOtPBtXXMCZlB$">
https://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/options/OASIS/tag-library/19990315/index.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To indicate a table with all the grid lines visible, CALS requires
<b>@frame=</b></span><b>"</b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">all</span>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> as well as
<b>@colsep=</b></span><b>"</b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1</span>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> and
<b>@rowsep=</b></span><b>"</b><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1</span>"</b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> on all <entry> elements (you can omit colsep on the rightmost cells and rowsep on the finalrow).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael R. Boudreau</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Electronic Publishing Technology Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The University of Chicago Press</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1427 E. 60<sup>th</sup> Street</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Chicago, IL 60637</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="http://www.journals.uchicago.edu">www.journals.uchicago.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">oXygen-user <a href="mailto:oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com">
<oxygen-user-bounces@oxygenxml.com></a> on behalf of Frank Dissinger <a href="mailto:frank.dissinger@cgs-oris.com">
<frank.dissinger@cgs-oris.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Oxygen User Mailing List <a href="mailto:oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com"><oxygen-user@oxygenxml.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Can someone shed some light on how the <b>@colsep</b> and<b> @rowsep</b> attributes are used for CALS tables? The information I found is not clear and detailed enough for me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I understand that these attributes create separator lines for colums and rows. Do I only need these attributes when I do not set
<b>@frame="all"</b> to create lines for particular rows or columns only?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>For a normal CALS table with lines for all rows and columns (i.e. like a grid), is enough to set
<b>@frame="all"</b> or do I additionally need these attributes? The code that Oxygen creates (see below) with these settings (i.e. without these attributes) ...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>does not have these <b>@colsep</b> and<b> @rowsep</b> attributes, only <b>@frame="all"</b>, and is rendered as desired with my CHM and PDF transformations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I have several tables with <b>@colsep</b>/<b>@rowsep="0" </b>or<b> ="1"</b>. These attributes may have been added by FrameMaker when I converted unstructured content to DITA. Can I safely remove all of these attributes when I just want a CALS table with
row and line separators every (like a grid)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Frank<o:p></o:p></p>
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