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<p>Hi Sasha,</p>
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<p>Thanks for investigating this, I can reproduce the problem and
added a DITA OT issue with samples for it:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/dita-ot/dita-ot/issues/4117">https://github.com/dita-ot/dita-ot/issues/4117</a></p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Radu</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor</pre>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/2/23 10:28, Sascha Nothofer wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Radu,</p>
<p><br>
thanks for your analysis of my issue!<br>
<span class="HwtZe" lang="en"><span class="jCAhz ChMk0b"><span
class="ryNqvb">Your questions and thoughts helped me to
track down the problem.</span></span></span><br>
<br>
If you try to publish a map containing a title (or data
element) with a conkeyref like this<br>
<map><title><ph
conkeyref="key/productName"/></title>...</map><br>
and if the reused element contains another element with an id
attribute like this<br>
<ph id="productName"><ph
id="otherId">...</ph>...</ph><br>
then the DITA OT <span>3.7.3 </span>(Oxygen 25.0 build in)
is not able to resolve the reference on map level.
<br>
For example the pdf front page title does not contain the
referenced content.</p>
<p>If you use conref instead, everything is fine.<br>
Conkeyrefs from topic to topic are also resolved as expected.<br>
<br>
It looks like a OT bug.<br>
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<br>
Thx!<br>
Sascha<br>
<br>
<br>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">> Currently I
want to switch from Oxygen 23 to 25.0 including an
<br>
> extracted build-in DITA-OT3.x with custom pdf2 plugin
but In the <br>
> updated?environment we have the following effect:<br>
><br>
><br>
> In almost all DITAVAL contexts (we have a lot) the
variable texts are <br>
> not rendered into the DITA Map anymore without error
messages.<br>
><br>
This looks like an editing problem, in such cases we are
interested in <br>
knowing what those particular error messages state.
Ideally we would <br>
also have a small sample DITA project to reproduce the
problem on our <br>
side. You can do this with a separate off list email.<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> Just a few DITAVAL contexts produce output as before.<br>
><br>
By output do you mean publishing?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">yes, html or pdf.
We have no problems in Oxygen/Author. All references are
displayed fine.<br>
</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt"><br>
</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">><br>
> In published content topics/chapters everything is
fine -> conkeyrefs <br>
> are resolved.<br>
><br>
So the publishing is fine? Only the DITA Maps Manager has
problems <br>
displaying the keyrefs?<br>
No problem in Maps Manager. The problem is only in
preprocessing output and following.<br>
><br>
> Also Oxygen Author WYSIWYG resolves all conkeyrefs as
expected in <br>
> topics and in the map.<br>
><br>
Ok, so the main editor area seems to work.<br>
><br>
><br>
> In the pre-processing output (?_MERGED.xml) the
specific map elements <br>
> do not contain the variable text but conref
attributes with wrong <br>
> transformed links:<br>
> The conrefs contain ?path/topic.dita#ElementID?
instead of <br>
> ?path/ditatopic.dita#topicID/ElementID?<br>
><br>
> In correct output contexts there are no conref
attrubtes rendered into <br>
> output, just the elements with resolved text.<br>
><br>
So there is also a publishing problem as well? Oxygen 25.0
comes bundled <br>
with DITA OT 3.7 from what I remember, maybe there is some
<br>
incompatibility between your custom PDF plugin and DITA OT
3.7.<br>
<br>
Do you have also a DITA DTD specialization plugin? If so
did you install <br>
it in the DITA OT bundled with Oxygen 25.0?<br>
<br>
yes<br>
<br>
> I guess, there could be many different reasons for
this. I tried a lot <br>
> and couldn?t reproduced the problem in a simple test
project. I also <br>
> did?nt manage to simplify our project to a working
state.<br>
><br>
I somehow suspect you may have some DITA specialization
for certain <br>
topics. I'm not sure. If you can reproduce about the same
problem when <br>
editing and when publishing, the problem is usually
somewhere in the <br>
DITA Open Toolkit publishing engine, some plugin which may
not be installed.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Radu<br>
<br>
Radu Coravu<br>
Oxygen XML Editor<br>
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Hi Frank,<br>
<br>
<br>
Let's split your use cases in two:<br>
<br>
1) Inserting elements using Oxygen's actions (toolbars,
menus)<br>
<br>
2) Inserting elements using the content completion
window.<br>
<br>
<br>
1)<br>
<br>
<br>
Let's take table insertion for example:<br>
<br>
<br>
If you edit your DITA framework extension that is
defined in the <br>
Preferences->"Document Type Association" page, it has
an <br>
"Author=>Actions" tab.<br>
<br>
If you edit the action "insert.table", it calls an
operation named <br>
"ro.sync.ecss.extensions.dita.topic.table.InsertTableOperation" with <br>
certain parameters. One of the parameters is named
"cellFragment", you <br>
can set its value to "<p/>".<br>
<br>
There are other ways to change a table, for example
insert a new column, <br>
insert a new row. So actions like
"insert.table.row.below" or <br>
"insert.table.column.after" which also need to be
changed accordingly.<br>
<br>
<br>
2) Inserting elements like <info> using the
content completion window.<br>
<br>
Your DITA extension framework customization can contain
a <br>
"cc_config.xml" file which defines that for certain
elements, if they <br>
are inserted, another element should be inserted inside
them as well:<br>
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Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Radu<br>
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Radu Coravu<br>
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On 1/24/23 11:49, Frank Dissinger wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi list,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a <p>
element. I would like <br>
> oXygen to automatically insert <p> as a child
element when inserting <br>
> <table>, <simpletable> (for the table
cells of course), <info>, <br>
> <stepresult>, <stepxmp>... and many
more. How do I do this?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
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From: "Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu)"<br>
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Hi Sasha,<br>
<br>
<br>
Usually problems can be either editing problems or
publishing problems <br>
or problems which affect both editing and publishing.<br>
<br>
<br>
> Currently I want to switch from Oxygen 23 to 25.0
including an <br>
> extracted build-in DITA-OT3.x with custom pdf2
plugin but In the <br>
> updated?environment we have the following effect:<br>
><br>
><br>
> In almost all DITAVAL contexts (we have a lot) the
variable texts are <br>
> not rendered into the DITA Map anymore without
error messages.<br>
><br>
This looks like an editing problem, in such cases we are
interested in <br>
knowing what those particular error messages state.
Ideally we would <br>
also have a small sample DITA project to reproduce the
problem on our <br>
side. You can do this with a separate off list email.<br>
><br>
> Just a few DITAVAL contexts produce output as
before.<br>
><br>
By output do you mean publishing?<br>
><br>
> In published content topics/chapters everything is
fine -> conkeyrefs <br>
> are resolved.<br>
><br>
So the publishing is fine? Only the DITA Maps Manager
has problems <br>
displaying the keyrefs?<br>
><br>
> Also Oxygen Author WYSIWYG resolves all conkeyrefs
as expected in <br>
> topics and in the map.<br>
><br>
Ok, so the main editor area seems to work.<br>
><br>
><br>
> In the pre-processing output (?_MERGED.xml) the
specific map elements <br>
> do not contain the variable text but conref
attributes with wrong <br>
> transformed links:<br>
> The conrefs contain ?path/topic.dita#ElementID?
instead of <br>
> ?path/ditatopic.dita#topicID/ElementID?<br>
><br>
> In correct output contexts there are no conref
attrubtes rendered into <br>
> output, just the elements with resolved text.<br>
><br>
So there is also a publishing problem as well? Oxygen
25.0 comes bundled <br>
with DITA OT 3.7 from what I remember, maybe there is
some <br>
incompatibility between your custom PDF plugin and DITA
OT 3.7.<br>
<br>
Do you have also a DITA DTD specialization plugin? If so
did you install <br>
it in the DITA OT bundled with Oxygen 25.0?<br>
<br>
> I guess, there could be many different reasons for
this. I tried a lot <br>
> and couldn?t reproduced the problem in a simple
test project. I also <br>
> did?nt manage to simplify our project to a working
state.<br>
><br>
I somehow suspect you may have some DITA specialization
for certain <br>
topics. I'm not sure. If you can reproduce about the
same problem when <br>
editing and when publishing, the problem is usually
somewhere in the <br>
DITA Open Toolkit publishing engine, some plugin which
may not be installed.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Radu<br>
<br>
Radu Coravu<br>
Oxygen XML Editor<br>
<br>
On 1/23/23 17:19, Sascha Nothofer wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi DITA & Oxygen Users,<br>
><br>
> Currently I want to switch from Oxygen 23 to 25.0
including an <br>
> extracted build-in DITA-OT3.x with custom pdf2
plugin but In the <br>
> updated?environment we have the following effect:<br>
><br>
><br>
> In almost all DITAVAL contexts (we have a lot) the
variable texts are <br>
> not rendered into the DITA Map anymore without
error messages. Just a <br>
> few DITAVAL contexts produce output as before.<br>
><br>
> In published content topics/chapters everything is
fine -> conkeyrefs <br>
> are resolved. Also Oxygen Author WYSIWYG resolves
all conkeyrefs as <br>
> expected in topics and in the map.<br>
><br>
> In the pre-processing output (?_MERGED.xml) the
specific map elements <br>
> do not contain the variable text but conref
attributes with wrong <br>
> transformed links:<br>
> The conrefs contain ?path/topic.dita#ElementID?
instead of <br>
> ?path/ditatopic.dita#topicID/ElementID?<br>
><br>
> In correct output contexts there are no conref
attrubtes rendered into <br>
> output, just the elements with resolved text.<br>
><br>
> I guess, there could be many different reasons for
this. I tried a lot <br>
> and couldn?t reproduced the problem in a simple
test project. I also <br>
> did?nt manage to simplify our project to a working
state.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Maybe someone experienced a similar effect
(conkeyrefs in topic <br>
> content resolved but not in map title/data
elements) and can provide <br>
> hints for a possible cause and or solution.<br>
><br>
> What I can say so far:<br>
> - It has nothing todowith the custom pdfplugin:
same problem with <br>
> build-in pdf and html transformation scenarios.<br>
> - We are using only standard pdf parameter
settings.<br>
> - It has nothing todo with filtering directly
because I have deleted <br>
> all filter atts in the conkeyref chain in scope of
the problem. Also <br>
> our props attribute specialization does not affect
the problem.<br>
> - We do not use:<br>
><br>
> - ?- scoped keys and ditavalref in maps<br>
><br>
> -? - push-replace<br>
><br>
> -? Same problem with and without DITA project
files.<br>
><br>
> - Problem is not caused by DITA topic content
structures (I have <br>
> copied content from working to non-working context.<br>
><br>
> I'm curious if someone has already seen something
like this.<br>
><br>
> Best Regards<br>
><br>
> Sascha<br>
><br>
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