[oXygen-user] A question concerning the occasional IMPERMANENCE of open tabs in Oxygen projects, when "reopening" those projects.

Jean-Luc Chevillard jeanluc.chevillard at gmail.com
Thu Aug 1 11:34:08 CDT 2019


> What version of Oxygen are you using? Or are there multiple versions?

Hello Adrian,

Thank you for your answer.

I am using the latest version
(and also the latest build [which you announced on 19th july on this list])
but many of the tabs inside my (virtually) open projects
were opened at the time when I was using the previous builds
(or the previous versions).

Oxygen has mostly behaved for me in the expected manner
(as described by you)

I have never lost open tabs information simply when alternating between 
2 projects A and B

But if I work successively on 5 projects, A, B, C. D and E
I currently feel it is not guaranteed that the tabs in A will have 
always been preserved when I return from E to A
(using "reopen project")

I should add that I work on multilingual texts [with 50% of the content 
in Tamil script) which rely heavily on bidirectional support,
and that when the size of my files grow, the time needed for switching 
between "Text Mode" and "Author mode" can become rather long
(it can sometimes take 40 seconds for "computing the layout")

The most acrobatic is of course when I occasionally have to edit (in 
text mode) a file which is beyond the limit where bidirectional support 
is disabled,
because in any line containing Tamil I cannot rely on what I see on screen
and have to edit BLINDLY, on the basis of what I know of the position 
where the cursor SHOULD BE
;-)

Can progress be expected in that direction?

(I have always hesitated to encourage my colleagues using the same 
environment as me
because I cannot stomach the idea that they would find themselves stuck 
in a BLIND EDITING situation of the type that I have just described ...

Nevertheless, Oxygen in a great software for me,
which I use for several hours every day

;-)

Best wishes

-- Jean-Luc

https://twitter.com/JLC1956

https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard



On 01/08/2019 16:01, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Adrian Buza) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What version of Oxygen are you using? Or are there multiple versions?
>
>> -- is there a limit in the number of open tabs which can be 
>> remembered? (or in the number of virtually open projects between 
>> which one can smoothly navigate) 
> There is no limit for the number of opened tabs that are remembered 
> (we call it "*project editing state*"). Only one project is open at 
> any given time, the rest are just history. Even if they are lost from 
> the project history their opened tabs are still remembered.
>
>> -- can discontinuities [in remembering] be caused by the installation 
>> of a new build (or a new version)? 
> Yes, that is possible because of version changes.
> Since v21.0 the mechanism for keeping the project editing state has 
> changed, a distinct file is used for each version of Oxygen. When 
> updating versions (from an old version to a newer version) the project 
> editing state of the older version is imported in the newer one the 
> first time you run the new one.
> *If you go back to an old version (e.g. v21.0), you will not see any 
> changes in project editing state made with the new version (e.g. 
> v21.1).* Also, after the initial import (first time a new version is 
> run), if you make changes with an older version (v21.0) in the project 
> editing state, they will not be imported again when you start the 
> newer version (v21.1).
>
> Regards,
> Adrian
> Adrian Buza
> oXygen XML Editor and Author Support
> On 31.07.2019 11:42, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
>> Dear members of the Oxygen support team and of the user group,
>>
>> I have a question concerning the IMPERMANENCE of open tabs in Oxygen 
>> projects.
>>
>> Mor precisely, I am currently working on several ancient texts, for 
>> which I am preparing electronic editions (in a progressively changing 
>> XML format) and each text has its own project.
>>
>> When I exit Oxygen, I usually leave several tabs open in the 
>> currently open project, and I expect to find themselves still open 
>> when I restart Oxygen (and I can see that Oxygen reloads the open 
>> files, whih can take time because many files are bulky and contain 
>> complex structures with possibly tens of thousands of elements.
>>
>> When I switch from one project to another one (using the "Reopen 
>> project" in the "Project" menu) I have also come to expect that I 
>> shall find the same open tabs as I had left open during the previous 
>> editing session for the same project (which is therefore "virtually 
>> open")
>>
>> Howevever, I have recently noticed that this does not always happen.
>>
>> On several occasions, I have had to individually reopen files, after 
>> using the "Reopen project"
>> (which currently lists 29 projects in its menu)
>>
>> This being said,
>> I can now restate my question.
>>
>> -- is there a limit in the number of open tabs which can be 
>> remembered? (or in the number of virtually open projects between 
>> which one can smoothly navigate)
>> -- can discontinuities [in remembering] be caused by the installation 
>> of a new build (or a new version)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for clarifications
>>
>> -- Jean-Luc
>>
>>
>> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
>>
>> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>>
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