[oXygen-user] Is Tamil among the languages for which a specific collation is available?

Thu Sep 21 04:17:03 CDT 2017

Hi Jean-Luc,

Indeed the installation procedure of the JAR library that I gave you 
would need to be repeated for each new installed Oxygen version. Which 
is not very practical.

So I created an add-on for Oxygen which adds this extra library:

https://github.com/oxygenxml/oxygenxml.icu4j.i18n

It has installation instructions there. The add-on can be installed in 
Oxygen no matter in what operating system it is running.
Once you install an add-on, after you switch to a newer Oxygen version, 
the new Oxygen will ask you if you want to use the old installed 
add-ons. Even if you choose not to use the old add-ons you can install 
the add-on again in the new Oxygen version using the same simple procedure.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
http://www.oxygenxml.com

On 9/21/2017 11:03 AM, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
> Dear Radu,
>
> now comes what we call in French "une question subsidiaire" :-)
>
> Should I expect to have to do the same manipulation each time
> Oxygen is upgraded to a new (major) version,
> or to a new "build"?
>
> Best wishes
>
> -- Jean-Luc (in Pondy)
>
> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>
> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
>
>
>
>
> On 21/09/2017 10:52, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
>> Hi Jean-Luc,
>>
>> No problem. I'm glad this works for you now.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Radu
>>
>> Radu Coravu
>> <oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
>> http://www.oxygenxml.com
>>
>> On 9/21/2017 8:19 AM, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
>>> POST-SCRIPTUM
>>>
>>> I have to apologize for sending an unnecessary request.
>>>
>>> As pointed out just now by Thilak Bhaskaran,
>>> who works in our EFEO research center,
>>> the file "icu4j.jar"
>>> DOES EXIST on the Windows laptop also.
>>>
>>> It is located in
>>> the "lib" directory
>>> of the folder called "Oxygen XML Editor 19"
>>>
>>> I have replaced it by "icu4j-59_1.jar"
>>> and restarted Oxygen
>>> and now the Tamil Alphabetical order
>>> is perfectly obtained.
>>>
>>> That is GREAT!
>>>
>>> -- Jean-Luc (in Pondy)
>>>
>>> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ##############################
>>>
>>> Dear Radu,
>>>
>>> this morning in Pondicherry
>>> I have tried to locate the "icu4j.jar"
>>> and was successful in the case of my UBUNTU laptop (running Ubuntu
>>> 14.04)
>>> but UNSUCCESSFUL  in the case of my Windows laptop (running Windows 7).
>>>
>>> I am part of a research team where both types of computers are
>>> represented
>>> and have to be conversant with both sides.
>>>
>>> I usually run Oxygen on the Windows Laptop (where I have a bigger screen
>>> :-)
>>> and my version is
>>> <oXygen/> XML Editor 19.0, build 2017042020
>>>
>>> I occasionally run Oxygen on my Ubuntu laptop
>>> and have not yet upgraded to Oxygen 18
>>> and my version there is
>>> <oXygen/> XML Editor 18.0, build 2016051118
>>>
>>> Since I could not locate the "icu4j.jar" on the Windows laptop,
>>> I could apply your solution ONLY on the Ubuntu laptop,
>>> WHERE IT WORKED PERFECTLY.
>>>
>>> THANKS A LOT for your timely and efficient help.
>>>
>>> All that remains for me to be happy is your telling me how to handle the
>>> Windows 7 laptop.
>>>
>>> As far as I can see,
>>> inside the "Program Files" folder
>>> there is a folder called "Oxygen XML Editor 19"
>>> that folder contains a folder called ".install4j"
>>> which contains several .jar files
>>> but none is called "icu4j.jar"
>>> and a SEARCH on the computer hard disk does not reveal anything
>>>
>>> Thanks for giving me additional pointers
>>>
>>> Of course, I could use the Ubuntu machine as my main machine ;-)
>>> but I can't expect everyone else to also do that .... ;-)
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> -- Jean-Luc (in Pondy)
>>>
>>> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/09/2017 18:14, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
>>>> Hi Jean-Luc,
>>>>
>>>> I tried working a little bit with your samples on my side and I think
>>>> I managed to make this work.
>>>> In the Oxygen libraries directory "OXYGEN_INSTALL_DIR\lib" there is a
>>>> JAR library called "icu4j.jar". It is an incomplete version of a
>>>> larger ICU4J library which can be downloaded from:
>>>>
>>>> http://site.icu-project.org/download/59#TOC-ICU4J-Download
>>>>
>>>> Once you have the "icu4j-59_1.jar", move the original "icu4j.jar" from
>>>> the Oxygen library folder to some other place and replace it with this
>>>> larger JAR library.
>>>>
>>>> Also the xsl:sort in the XSLT worked only if I used this syntax:
>>>>
>>>>> <xsl:sort select="."
>>>>> collation="http://www.w3.org/2013/collation/UCA?lang=ta"/>
>>>>
>>>> I do not know much about the values that the collation attribute
>>>> takes, but this was in one of the examples on the Saxonica
>>>> documentation page:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.saxonica.com/html/documentation/xsl-elements/sort.html
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Radu
>>>>
>>>> Radu Coravu
>>>> <oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
>>>> http://www.oxygenxml.com
>>>>
>>>> On 9/19/2017 5:15 PM, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>
>>>>> The title of this message says it all:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Tamil among the languages for which a specific collation is
>>>>> available
>>>>> when using Oxygen?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to sort items in the Tamil alphabetical order,
>>>>> but when I specify that « lang="ta" »
>>>>> as a parameter in my sort command,
>>>>> the order I obtain is the one which is based
>>>>> on the Unicode codepoint collation,
>>>>> which is not what one expects while sorting Tamil words
>>>>>
>>>>> The same thing happens if I define
>>>>> a parameter such as
>>>>>
>>>>> <xsl:param name="sorting-collation"
>>>>> select="'http://saxon.sf.net/collation?lang=ta'"/>
>>>>>
>>>>> and then use it in a sort command
>>>>>
>>>>> <xsl:sort select="." collation="{$sorting-collation}"/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To give a specific example
>>>>> the following short list is extracted from a much longer list
>>>>> which is part of an HTML file
>>>>> created by applying an XSLT file
>>>>> (containing SORT commands)
>>>>> to an XML file
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <ul>
>>>>> <li>அத்தத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனந்தன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனற்பொறியின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனற்றிரளின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனுடத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அமரமாதர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 2 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அரக்கர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அருகன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 43 items]</li>
>>>>> </ul>
>>>>>
>>>>> HOWEVER, this is not the proper Tamil dictionnary order order, which
>>>>> should be:
>>>>>
>>>>> <ul>
>>>>> <li>அத்தத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அமரமாதர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 2 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அரக்கர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அருகன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 43 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனந்தன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனற்பொறியின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனற்றிரளின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>>>>> <li>அனுடத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>>>>> </ul>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jean-Luc Chevillard (currently in Pondicherry, India)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>>>>>
>>>>> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
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