[oXygen-user] Is Tamil among the languages for which a specific collation is available?

[Jean-Luc Chevillard]

POST-SCRIPTUM

I have to apologize for sending an unnecessary request.

As pointed out just now by Thilak Bhaskaran,
who works in our EFEO research center,
the file "icu4j.jar"
DOES EXIST on the Windows laptop also.

It is located in
the "lib" directory
of the folder called "Oxygen XML Editor 19"

I have replaced it by "icu4j-59_1.jar"
and restarted Oxygen
and now the Tamil Alphabetical order
is perfectly obtained.

That is GREAT!

-- Jean-Luc (in Pondy)

https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard

https://twitter.com/JLC1956



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Dear Radu,

this morning in Pondicherry
I have tried to locate the "icu4j.jar"
and was successful in the case of my UBUNTU laptop (running Ubuntu 14.04)
but UNSUCCESSFUL  in the case of my Windows laptop (running Windows 7).

I am part of a research team where both types of computers are represented
and have to be conversant with both sides.

I usually run Oxygen on the Windows Laptop (where I have a bigger screen :-)
and my version is
<oXygen/> XML Editor 19.0, build 2017042020

I occasionally run Oxygen on my Ubuntu laptop
and have not yet upgraded to Oxygen 18
and my version there is
<oXygen/> XML Editor 18.0, build 2016051118

Since I could not locate the "icu4j.jar" on the Windows laptop,
I could apply your solution ONLY on the Ubuntu laptop,
WHERE IT WORKED PERFECTLY.

THANKS A LOT for your timely and efficient help.

All that remains for me to be happy is your telling me how to handle the 
Windows 7 laptop.

As far as I can see,
inside the "Program Files" folder
there is a folder called "Oxygen XML Editor 19"
that folder contains a folder called ".install4j"
which contains several .jar files
but none is called "icu4j.jar"
and a SEARCH on the computer hard disk does not reveal anything

Thanks for giving me additional pointers

Of course, I could use the Ubuntu machine as my main machine ;-)
but I can't expect everyone else to also do that .... ;-)

Best wishes

-- Jean-Luc (in Pondy)

https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard

https://twitter.com/JLC1956





On 20/09/2017 18:14, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
> Hi Jean-Luc,
>
> I tried working a little bit with your samples on my side and I think 
> I managed to make this work.
> In the Oxygen libraries directory "OXYGEN_INSTALL_DIR\lib" there is a 
> JAR library called "icu4j.jar". It is an incomplete version of a 
> larger ICU4J library which can be downloaded from:
>
> http://site.icu-project.org/download/59#TOC-ICU4J-Download
>
> Once you have the "icu4j-59_1.jar", move the original "icu4j.jar" from 
> the Oxygen library folder to some other place and replace it with this 
> larger JAR library.
>
> Also the xsl:sort in the XSLT worked only if I used this syntax:
>
>> <xsl:sort select="." 
>> collation="http://www.w3.org/2013/collation/UCA?lang=ta"/>
>
> I do not know much about the values that the collation attribute 
> takes, but this was in one of the examples on the Saxonica 
> documentation page:
>
> http://www.saxonica.com/html/documentation/xsl-elements/sort.html
>
> Regards,
> Radu
>
> Radu Coravu
> <oXygen/>  XML Editor, Schema Editor and XSLT Editor/Debugger
> http://www.oxygenxml.com
>
> On 9/19/2017 5:15 PM, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
>> Greetings
>>
>> The title of this message says it all:
>>
>> Is Tamil among the languages for which a specific collation is available
>> when using Oxygen?
>>
>> I have to sort items in the Tamil alphabetical order,
>> but when I specify that « lang="ta" »
>> as a parameter in my sort command,
>> the order I obtain is the one which is based
>> on the Unicode codepoint collation,
>> which is not what one expects while sorting Tamil words
>>
>> The same thing happens if I define
>> a parameter such as
>>
>> <xsl:param name="sorting-collation"
>> select="'http://saxon.sf.net/collation?lang=ta'"/>
>>
>> and then use it in a sort command
>>
>> <xsl:sort select="." collation="{$sorting-collation}"/>
>>
>>
>> To give a specific example
>> the following short list is extracted from a much longer list
>> which is part of an HTML file
>> created by applying an XSLT file
>> (containing SORT commands)
>> to an XML file
>>
>>
>> <ul>
>> <li>அத்தத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> <li>அனந்தன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனற்பொறியின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனற்றிரளின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனுடத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> <li>அமரமாதர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 2 items]</li>
>> <li>அரக்கர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> <li>அருகன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 43 items]</li>
>> </ul>
>>
>> HOWEVER, this is not the proper Tamil dictionnary order order, which
>> should be:
>>
>> <ul>
>> <li>அத்தத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> <li>அமரமாதர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 2 items]</li>
>> <li>அரக்கர் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> <li>அருகன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 43 items]</li>
>> <li>அனந்தன் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனற்பொறியின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனற்றிரளின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 1 items]</li>
>> <li>அனுடத்தின் பெயர் [head-word ABOVE 7 items]</li>
>> </ul>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated
>>
>>
>> -- Jean-Luc Chevillard (currently in Pondicherry, India)
>>
>> https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard
>>
>> https://twitter.com/JLC1956
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